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Points: 1381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2006 at 11:48
X&Y was terrible!!!!
but Parachutes and Rush of Blood are brilliant.
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Peter Rideout needs to

A) chill

B) understand that categories are vital to discussions of music

and

3) understand that someone saying a band he likes is teh 5uxx0r isn't a personal attack
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:55
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Peter Rideout needs to

A) chill

B) understand that categories are vital to discussions of music

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3) understand that someone saying a band he likes is teh 5uxx0r isn't a personal attack
 
Thanks for personal judgement from afar, oh person who has never met me....Wink
 
I do not need to "chill." I am fine, and do have much larger concerns beyond this site, you know.Smile
 
I do not need to agree to the endless and revisionist sub-categorization of music here. Beyond the broadest categories, the categorization of art does not work, in my opinion. Artists largely reject our categories. Art resists being forced into pat little boxes.
 
I have taken none of this personally, nor, do I think I have personally insulted or attacked anyone on this. (edit: looking back, well maybe I got a little too "focussed" in my responses.... Sorry if I offended, but these endless "can this 30 year old band be prog now?" type threads do irk me. If all proposed artists were to be included here, the word "prog" in the site's name would lose the last vestiges of its real [historic] meaning, and the site might as well change its name to "Good Music Archives.")
 
(Notice I am not judging you in return, Teaflax.)Smile
 
 
But again, sorry if I did before  -- this issue never goes away, and has (especially in the last year or so, with the tremendous influx of new and younger members) often been an irritant to me here.
 
I still love this site, though, and enjoy these "arguments."  I just seem to be in the minority on this issue -- 15 year olds, and people with a dictionary in hand are now redefining "prog." (But, I think, they are alienating many older prog fans in the process.)
 


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 18 2006 at 12:23
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Maybe you need to reconsider your manic posting style then, Peter. Because I doubt that I'm the only one who reads your writing as being very agitated, huffy and hectoring.


Edited by Teaflax - June 18 2006 at 11:59
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 12:21
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Maybe you need to reconsider your manic posting style then, Peter. Because I doubt that I'm the only one who reads your writing as being very agitated, huffy and hectoring.
 
(See my last post above.)
 
I can understand that -- advice noted & seriously considered!
 
I'm only human (and thus imperfect), of course. It is perhaps too easy to really "cut loose" when "communicating" via this faceless, indirect medium.Ermm (I sure don't argue so aggressively in "real" life!)
 
A major consideration in my rejecting admin/moderator status here was that I really value the freedom to be silly, irreverant, and sometimes not strictly PC or "nice" in my posts.Stern Smile
 
Still, unlike all too many, I do apologise, both publicly and privately, when I (unjustifiably or inadvertantly) offend.
 
 
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Intelligent quiestion !! My father likes classic prog AND Coldplay.
I don't know what to answer ... but their music is not prog at all ....
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Points: 7374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 21:12
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 
Thanks for personal judgement from afar, oh person who has never met me....Wink
 
 
 
Same goes for you. Angry
 
 
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Most people who dislike coldplay have not heard their first album. After the first album, they get more boring. But the first one has just enough trippiness/spaciness to make it worth a listen. It's call "Parachutes", and I'd suggest people check it out if they originally dismissed Coldplay.
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Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 
Thanks for personal judgement from afar, oh person who has never met me....Wink
 
 
 
Same goes for you. Angry
 
 
 
That post was directed at Teaflax, not you, and in any case I apologized for my tone in a subsequent post.
 
It's done.
 
Still, I don't know why Coldplay should be a "guilty pleasure." Just because they are popular, or "not complex enough?" It's just music -- if it gives you pleasure, it is "good."
 
But I am sincerely sorry for offending you -- I was rather feisty/grumpy that day, it seems.
 
Mea culpa!


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 19 2006 at 00:57
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Ermm I wonder what screwed up the format of this thread, anyway? Confused
 
Should we blame Coldplay for this?Shocked
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Points: 1678 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2006 at 02:33
    
they are not prog, that's for sure... IMO, some prog fans like them 'cause they are not like all the other poppy-rock bands... their first album is excellent...
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Originally posted by toolis toolis wrote:

IMO, some prog fans like them 'cause they are not like all the other poppy-rock bands... their first album is excellent...
As noted, Coldplay would actually be pretty good if there weren't already several bands doing what they do, and doing it so much better. I find it seriously hard to believe that anyone who's heard Radiohead, Elbow and The Doves would be particularly impressed.
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2006 at 03:04
Meh, I think Parachutes is really good. They got progressively more cliche and predicatable, though, and I don't care about them anymore.
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Excellent band. Not prog, but prog-related related. Wink
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Any British group that can succeed in the US deserves some credit, but I don't like listening to Keane, Embrace or Coldplay because of those whiney vocals.
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2006 at 09:26
     I haven't heard much, but I've got nothing against them. Nothing I have heard has impressed me enough to warrant further investigation.
    

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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2006 at 09:31
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I've noticed this, and frankly I'm a bit baffled. Am I the only one who finds Coldplay totally forgettable?

    
Who?
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Points: 994 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2006 at 12:49
I can't stand the band, but I quite enjoy Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head. Especially High Speed from Parachutes and Daylight from AROBTTH.

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I don't really like Coldplay. Their songs have less alternation and sound very similar...
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