Yes vs Dream Theater

Originally posted by Sacred 22 Considering the age demographic at this web site I am curious to how you feel. I know many young proggers who prefer DT to Yes. I prefer Yes by a long shot myself but then I am 49.

You are a sick and sadistic man, Steve

Originally posted by Sacred 22 Originally posted by bruin69 I agree that Dream Theater shouldn't be regarded as young upstarts who haven't paid their dues - they've put a lot of work in and deserve kudos for that. I just can't relate to them; to me they're just too passionless and over-technical. Please note this is a personal opinion. I'm no musical expert; I just likes what I likes...   I think young people tend to favour metal prog over other types of prog. This is not exclusive but more of a general observation and even knowing myself as a kid, although I tired of it quickly. As a woman once told, "Dream Theater is angry man's music" I think she has a point. Their technical prowess is certainly something to see. Ya, they have talent in spades, but I really do believe that thier composition is a tad weaker than the more polished Yes.   Interesting contrasts though. I would have liked to see them on the same bill as they were for a while touring the States. Yes with Dream Theater. Must have been a interesting show.

To say that DT is angry man's music is quite an overgeneralization. True, they are a metal band. But they are easily the most versatile, far-reaching metal band on the planet—a fact people tend to ignore.  95% of metal is, well, sh*t. I can't even listen to it. I mean, yeah, it's a little fun for about 30 seconds or so, but then it gets tedious. DT is so much more than just a metal band: they are a symphonic band, they are an experimental metal band, they are a kick-ass neo-prog band, they are creators of incredible ambient soundscapes, and and they are everything else in between. Their lyrics and concepts are very carefully-written (even if sometimes the lyrics themselves lack subtlety), and are far more sensical and enticing than the jibberish Jon Anderson comes up with. And they are excellent songwriters, a fact that is widely unrecognized given the breadth of their scope.

I'll give my two cents:

Anderson < LaBrie

LaBrie is just a chameleon. He can be powerful, he can be heartwrenching, and he can soar. Anderson's voice is pleasant, but his lyrics are distracting and irritating.

Howe < Petrucci

    Technical ability:
    Howe < Petrucci
    Creativity:
    Howe > Petrucci
    Songwriting:
    Howe < Petrucci
    Versatility:
    Howe < Petrucci

As far as 'emotion' goes, well, even if Petrucci's lack of subtlety in his phrasing may be his biggest weakness, I haven't exactly been impressed with Howe's phrasing either.

Squire = Myung

I love that I can always hear Squire, whereas you can only hear Myung about half the time. This is just the nature of metal; the bass mostly serves to pump up the low-end punch of the guitar. But Myung's growl, when you can hear it, is great.

Wakeman < Rudess

Rudess can play anything. He can shred, he can purrr... and I've become increasingly aware, the more I've listened to his work with Dream Theater, just how tasteful his work is. Just listen to his work in "Blind Faith" or the second verse of "Endless Sacrifice." Just... the correct notes to play.

Bruford > Portnoy

Portnoy might be in the business of showing off his skills more often, but I do prefer Bruford on this one.

Originally posted by WaywardSon Oh yeah, Virgil Donati is a monster on the drums!! I agree!" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif">

me too. hope the new planet x work comes soon!

Originally posted by xtopher Originally posted by Sacred 22 Considering the age demographic at this web site I am curious to how you feel. I know many young proggers who prefer DT to Yes. I prefer Yes by a long shot myself but then I am 49. You are a sick and sadistic man, Steve Ok. first I must appologize to the young people here that understand the vast chasm that separates Dream Theater and Yes. To you, I take a bow. Now getting to you PINK. You are one of those Metal Heads that are a bit slow to understand................ It's ok, some people just take a wee bit longer to grasp the truth. I have all the faith in the world that you will eventually come around and see the light. Originally posted by Sacred 22 Originally posted by bruin69 I agree that Dream Theater shouldn't be regarded as young upstarts who haven't paid their dues - they've put a lot of work in and deserve kudos for that. I just can't relate to them; to me they're just too passionless and over-technical. Please note this is a personal opinion. I'm no musical expert; I just likes what I likes...   I think young people tend to favour metal prog over other types of prog. This is not exclusive but more of a general observation and even knowing myself as a kid, although I tired of it quickly. As a woman once told, "Dream Theater is angry man's music" I think she has a point. Their technical prowess is certainly something to see. Ya, they have talent in spades, but I really do believe that thier composition is a tad weaker than the more polished Yes.   Interesting contrasts though. I would have liked to see them on the same bill as they were for a while touring the States. Yes with Dream Theater. Must have been a interesting show. To say that DT is angry man's music is quite an overgeneralization. (calm down Pink....temper temper)  True, they are a metal band. But they are easily the most versatile, far-reaching metal band on the planet—a fact people tend to ignore.  95% of metal is, well, sh*t. I can't even listen to it. I mean, yeah, it's a little fun for about 30 seconds or so, but then it gets tedious. DT is so much more than just a metal band: they are a symphonic band, they are an experimental metal band, they are a kick-ass neo-prog band, they are creators of incredible ambient soundscapes, and and they are everything else in between. Their lyrics and concepts are very carefully-written (even if sometimes the lyrics themselves lack subtlety), and are far more sensical and enticing than the jibberish Jon Anderson comes up with. And they are excellent songwriters, a fact that is widely unrecognized given the breadth of their scope. As far as Metal bands go. I would have to agree with you based on the metal bands that I have heard over the years. They dazzle, they are amazing........wow......ohhhh......ahhhhh......"man can that Petrucci play holy sh*t" and all that neato stuff that impressionable young little buggers like yourself are drawn to................. I'm teasing you Pink, but I don't think you are going to find too many people that have any musical sense at all that will side with your hero's in Dream Theater. Who said this was a pointless poll???????

Amazing and here I thought this poll was long ago dead. Just goes to prove the hunger and passion for DT polls.