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    Posted: March 03 2004 at 15:28

 

I got all my CDs stolen a while back and i'm rebuilding my CD collection.I was hoping you guys could help me in my CD selections.My favorite band is Genesis and I'm looking for similar styles , which I am told is classified as Neo Prog.I've bought all the Marillion CDs with Fish.

I'm fairly new to Prog groups 1980 + . I've bought almost all the IQ  CDs and I really like Tales from the lush Attic and the Wake which is in the style I love.There is also Grandstand,Il Trono dei Ricordi,Trespass I really enjoy.I've gotten most Pendragon CDs which are OK.Arena is a bit heavier but good.

I'm thinking of listening to CAST and Twelth Night which I hear are very good.

Can you guys suggest groups and Albums in the Genesis style .Thanks

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2004 at 16:58

In the Genesis style, you have all the symphonic progressive scene : Locanda delle fate and almost the entire italian progressive scene, Anthony Philipps, earlier Steve Hackett, Camel (from 'Snowgoose' to 'Nude', then much neo-prog oriented albums from 'Dust and dreams' to 'A nod and a wink'), Yes, Gordon Giltrap ('The Peacock Party' features Ian Mosley on drums), Ambrosia (their two first albums), Chris Squire ('Fish out of water'), UK ('UK'). Sagrado Coraçao da terra is also a great brazilian symphonic prog band, with sublime violin and voices.

But if you want to know more groups in the vein of Marillion, listen to Collage ('Moonshine'), Aufklärung ('de'la' tempesta... l'oscuro piacere'), Saga (all their discography from 1978 until 1985), Clepsydra ('Alone'), Pallas ('The sentinel') and even Eric Johnson and the only Steve Morse solo album ('High tension wires'). Rush recorded also albums close to the neo-prog genre (from 'Signals' to 'Counterparts', with a special mention to 'Power windows').

I hope my recommendations will help you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2004 at 20:17
Try the German group Chandelier if you enjoy early Marillion.  Very similar styles & very cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2004 at 06:04
I would definitely try out Flower Kings if youre a fan of
Genesis, like me, they have the same approach to music I think, but
with more jazz and sometimes very close to the Canterbury sound.
Glass Hammer is another good try I think. And of course, all the
other suggestions by others here, I agree completely, Chandelier and
Clepsydra is great. Good luck in building your collection
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2004 at 07:26

Give a spin to thoses CDs for NEO-STYLE great

  • Iluvatar "Children"
  • Satellite "A Street Between Sunrise And Sunset"
  • Carptree "Superhero"
  • High Wheel "There"
  • Cast "Al-Bandaluz"
  • Galleon "From Land To Ocean"
  • ICU "Now and here"
  • Collage "Moonshine"
  • Arena "The Visitor"
  • IQ "7th House"
  • Aufklärung "De'la' tempesta... l'oscuro piacere"
  • Clepsydra "Alone" 
  • Pallas "The Sentinel"

Have a good neo day !

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2004 at 10:45

I really like Jadis, although I'd only purchased "Fanatic".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2004 at 05:33

Originally posted by Aztech Aztech wrote:

My favorite band is Genesis and I'm looking for similar styles ,

Are you familiar with the band, Eloy?  To my ears they are very much Genesis influenced without being slavish about it.

In fact I've been enjoying their work quite a bit lately.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2004 at 16:16

Thank you very much everyone !

This is why I love this site : Its a whole bunch of helpful people who want to discover Prog they don't know, and are willing to advise others on the Prog they do know.

I have written down every single suggestion and I will try to find and download the MP3s to see If I enjoy them enough to buy the CDs .

I have  Collage "SAFE" but not ('Moonshine') ?,I have Clepsydra "Fears" but not ('Alone') I have Pallas the Cross & the Crucible but not  "The Sentinel".

I have :   Aufklärung, RUSH, SAGA,Flower Kings, ,Arena "The Visitor" ,IQ "7th   House" , Satellite "A Street Between Sunrise And Sunset"

The following others I don't know but will explore: Chandelier,  Jadis ,  Eloy, Glass Hammer,  Iluvatar "Children" ,   Carptree "Superhero",   High Wheel"There,    Cast "Al-Bandaluz,   Galleon "From Land To Ocean",    "ICU "Now and here"  

If you have any other suggestions in a Genesis style please let me know.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2004 at 16:18
Hi, Aztech! If you want to listen a couple of lost Genesis era Gabriel albums, I recommend you try to find these: The Watch ("Ghost") and Nightwatch ("Twilight"). If you listen one or both of them, you'll believe Genesis plays again with Gabriel singing. And in the neo style, any Citizen Cain album is a Genesis clon. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2004 at 01:32

Hello there,

you should really try the first album of Shadow Gallery...which doesn't has a name  but in progarchives is being refered as "Shadow Gallery" (i don't want to cririsize the site and i got this album named as "Shadow Gallery" in my computer too)

If you're searching for mp3s its tracks are the following

1. Dance of Fools 2.Darktown 3.Mystified 4.Question At Hand 5. Final Hour 6.Say Goodbye to the Morning 7. Queen of The City of Ice (a 17-minute masterpiece!).

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 11:23

Hi Guys, Just to let you know I really worked with your suggestions,yesterday I went to a prog store in Montreal and stayed 4 hours and gave a quick listen to 15 CDs from the following groups :

Garden Wall,Galleon,Camel,JethroTull,Cast,Glass Hammer,Violet District,White Willow,Chandelier,Iluvatar,Pallas,Clepsydra,Chris Squire.

I ended up buying :

3 Camels : Mirage ,Snowgoose,Moonmadness (For some unknown reason I was never exposed to Camel before now and its good stuff ! Any other great ones :Harbour ?)

Jethro Tull: A Passion Play (In the style of Thick as a Brick which I enjoy.How is Minstrel ?)

Cast :Legacy (New discovery; love the style. I might want the whole collection any albums to avoid ? )

Pallas : Sentinel (I have the Crosse and Crucible already any other good ones)

Any other suggestions ??? I'm hungry for good neo prog  Tongue

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 11:40
Originally posted by Zaragon Zaragon wrote:

I would definitely try out Flower Kings if youre a fan of
Genesis, like me, they have the same approach to music I think, but
with more jazz and sometimes very close to the Canterbury sound.
Glass Hammer is another good try I think. And of course, all the
other suggestions by others here, I agree completely, Chandelier and
Clepsydra is great. Good luck in building your collection
 
Glass Hammer is really great but I would compare them more to Yes and not to Genesis   But I don't know them very well.
And I really can recomment The Flower Kings, their Instrumental parts are awesome, try "Retropois", "Unfold the Future" or "Space Revolver"
Aren't the Flower Kings considered as a Retro-Prog, but where's the difference?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 12:10

It's not P Diddy, is it?

Welcome aboard!!!

Yer right, I wouldn't put TFK or Glass Hammer in the Genesis genre. Good bands though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 13:36

Vegates Diddy and welcome aboard. You'll like it here, its a great prog site !

I agree with you ,I did listen to 2 GlassHammer CDs, and it's definetiley is in the YES style. I did enjoy it, even if I prefer the Genesis style.I'll probably buy some of their albums.

Thanks but,I have the main Flower King albums already .

I can't say I liked Chandelier -Pure- that much because it sounded more like Synth Pop Rock that varies a little bit like prog.

Like I said before, I'll take any suggestions close to the Genesis style ie :lots of great keyboard solos and textures ,Gabriel like voices,flutes,hackette type guitars & acoustic guitars...

aztech

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 13:57
Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

It's not P Diddy, is it?

Welcome aboard!!!

Yer right, I wouldn't put TFK or Glass Hammer in the Genesis genre. Good bands though.

 
No, of course it's NOT P. Diddy ... It's a nickname all of my friends use and it refers to my surname "Dietrich" 
I can't help it, all people just say "Diddy" even if I didn't mentioned the nickname before
It's horrible, the first thing all people think about is P. Diddy  ...
 
If you want to have Bands sounding like Genesis try Van der Graaf (Generator), they are awesome, very melancholic and sometimes very aggressive AND the best thing: They use a Soxophone and no Guitar (but sometimes Robert Fripp appeares as a guest). And the voice is even better than Gabriel because Peter Hammill's voice is great and very variable (mellow and aggressive)!
Try "Pawn Hearts" or "H to He...who am the only one"
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 15:13
You can download songs from VdGG from the website. I love those mp3's and I'm going to buy an album soon!  Great saxophone-player!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 16:40
Hey VDGG is incredible. If you wan tmore edge and darker themes, try Parallel or 90 Degrees. Newer band, great sounds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2004 at 14:46

I must confess I don't know VDGG, heck I just recently found out about Camel and I 'm not that young ! But I will check it out .

So far what I 've enjoyed the most in the Neo Prog genre are :

2 first IQ albums,

Il Trono dei Ricordi,

Grand Stand,

Tresspass

and I just recently discovered Cast which I think I will very much enjoy.

If anyone can suggest other groups along those lines I still have a credit of about 100 CDs to buy ...  Tongue         Thanks

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2004 at 16:16
Credit? Does the Canadian Government give ya free CD's to stem the flow out of the Great White North? Take Off......... ya hoser.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2004 at 16:48

 

Dando: I wish they would be Canadian Government free CD credits Confused

but alas no, they are a Prog CD store $ credits because it was paid in advance.

So I go in every couple of weeks to the Prog store and tell the owner what do you have that might interest me, then I just sit down listen to a whole bunch of stuff with the head phones and have a real good time.Thats why I asked you guys for help I have over 100 CDs to choose, from a very vast selection of prog ! so keep those suggestions coming. Big smile

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