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Man Overboard 
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 Topic: I DARE you to doubt the progginess of Kansas.
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:00 |
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qCYIiHAhIdo Unfortunately it's not the highquality video I had before, but... 
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The Miracle
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:05 |
I have seen. It's prog allright and nicely performed, yet I fail to enjoy their overall sound. 
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:21 |
OK then... ... Only kidding 
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Masque
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:42 |
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it is time to come clean ... Kansas is my favourite prog band for a reason and its their progressive side clearly displayed time and time again in the 70`s ... Yet some people refuse to accept the fact that Kansas were First class prog ... it is their loss ;)
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:47 |
I shall doubt. 
Doubt.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:55 |
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O.K., you've got me. I guess i am pretty ignorant about the total proggitude of Kansas. I always did consider them progish, but never on the same level as their contemporaies. What is their most full blown prog release?
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 19:22 |
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Man, "The Pinnacle" is such a great tune!! They're more prog than the majority on this site. Much proggier than my favorite--Marillion.
I'd put these guys up against some of the heavy hitters any day.
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 19:22 |
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Most proggy? I'd say "Leftoverture" or "Song For America". "Masque" is up there, too.
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 19:25 |
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Man, and Walsh in his prime was unstoppable. Great video in terms of showcasing his vocals. Definitely one of the best in progressive music.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 19:30 |
I wouldnŽt dare!
Like Masque, Kansas is my favourite prog band.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 19:53 |
 Proud to be from Kansas!
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Tony R
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 20:21 |
I think Kansas have created their own niche within the Prog Rock umbrella. There is no one quite like them; well apart from Proto-Kaw and that big-eared,in-bred boy in Deliverance,so I doff my cap to them. Gord luv 'em.
Edited by Tony R - August 10 2006 at 20:21
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Teaflax
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 20:43 |
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Not bad, as long as they shut up. However...those vocals are just
Rawksville in both style and performance. It's like splicing Police
Academy footage into The Big Lebowski.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 21:18 |
 Teaflax wrote:
Not bad, as long as they shut up. However...those vocals are just Rawksville in both style and performance. It's like splicing Police Academy footage into The Big Lebowski.
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How absolutely hilarious 
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Arrrghus
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 21:43 |
Kansas... aren't they that AOR band... I love a bunch of their albums, and Leftoverture is one of the best prog albums ever.
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micky
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 21:51 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Proud to be from Kansas! |
hahah.... you all have an interesting state tree up
there.... shame they were supporting telephone wires and power lines...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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mickstafa
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 21:51 |
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I was highly let down from Leftoverture. After hearing about how great and proggy it was, I bought it. Kansas' music in itself is amazing, but man, when Walsh opens his mouth, the entire song is ruined.
They've got that awful "driving down the country road on a hot day listening to a bad AM radio station" vibe. I was completely blown away by their great song structures and music. But Walsh's vocals completely ruin it; If they'd released an instrumental album, I'd be all over it!
Kansas is there with Journey and Foreigner... sorry, I hate to say it, but it's true.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 21:55 |
Garion and Ivan will be here soon, they will nail some sense into this thread!
Edited by WaywardSon - August 10 2006 at 21:55
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mickstafa
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 22:00 |
Believe me, I hate it when I am let down by an album I've bought, especially when it is prog (or at least labeled prog ). If anyone can let me in on any "secrets" for getting joy out of Leftoverture, I'd welcome some advice. I will have to say, that Magnum Opus song or whatever towards the end of the album is quite a good song. If only the rest of the album was like that.... And I think that dreaded Walsh doesn't open his mouth on that track either....
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 22:01 |
I don't exactly know why you find it an insult to have Kansas be consiedered lesser prog. It speaks nothing of their song quality.
They have their moments when I find them undoubtedly prog, but at other times, mostly dealing with the vocals, I hear AOR. Before finding this site I always considered them AOR as did all my friends. I can remember who the best AOR band was: Kansas, Boston or Journey. As far as I know, most people outside of this site also rank Boston, Journey and Foreigner as their contemporaries.
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