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E-Dub
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Topic: Marillion epics Posted: August 27 2006 at 09:06 |
This poll is sort of an offspring of the Marbles one, since somebody mentioned that "Ocean Cloud" is Marllion's best epic within the past 20 years. They really didn't have an epic until This Strange Engine, but I did include the "This Town" suite off Holidays In Eden, since they all go hand in hand. I left out songs that were on the cusp of being an epic ("Quartz", "If My Heart Were A Ball", etc.), as I would prefer to keep it to songs that were at least 10 minutes. Anyway, my vote is for "This Strange Engine". This song embodies what an epic should be, with so many different moods and textures (just my opinion, however). The live versions are even better than the original studio version. And if you catch H after the song's performance on the Wish You Were Here DVD, the man looks like he's emotionally drained. I've heard a lot of anti-H stuff on this site, but what the man has is a passion to go along with his enormous talent. E
Edited by E-Dub - August 27 2006 at 09:49
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Tony R
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 09:37 |
Grendel's an epic surely? Its also an epic plagiaristic (paen?) fusion of Epitaph by KC,Plague Of Lightkeepers by VDGG and Supper's Ready by Genesis.
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 09:48 |
I've only heard it once, and quite frankly I completely forgot about it. It's legendary, however, and should've been included. I'm taking off "This Town" (as I was apprehensive in the first place) and add "Grendel". E
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 09:55 |
Tough choice again. I love all these songs. I chose This Strange Engine, one of my favourite Marillion songs.
You shouldn't take This Town trilogy and replace it with Grendel, just add the Fish era epic. IMHO.
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:22 |
When you go back and edit, it doesn't allow you to add more choices. At least, from what I saw. E
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:30 |
Don't make me choose.
I actually went to sleep listening to Interior Lulu/A Few Words for the Dead last night.
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 11:20 |
This Strange Engine, for me I think based on the excellent live version from the Wish You Were Here DVD. Though it was a tough choice as I love all those epics with the exception of House and Interior Lulu, which have never done than much for me.
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 11:31 |
"This Strange Engine" for me - one of the greatest songs in all Marillion catalogue.
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 11:58 |
I've only heard half of those songs but Grendal is the best of them, closely followed by The Invisable Man.
Edited by sleeper - September 05 2006 at 17:24
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WaywardSon
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 12:01 |
Grendel gets my vote.
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 14:30 |
This strange Engine, everything I look for in music is in that song. I'm a huge fan of that song
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 14:39 |
Grendel, for me. Regardless the influences.
Ocean Cloud and This Strange Engine are great as well.
Is Neverland an epic? This is the 21st century?
Marillion is not the greatest with epics. The band is good writing songs of about 10 minutes.
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 16:00 |
Whilst I agree that Invisible Man is not only the best epic off Marbles but the best epic of the entire Hogarth era, I still voted for Grendel. (Yes, I know it's derivitive of Genesis, but that's why I love it!)
Ocean Cloud is too long and doesn't hold my interest really.
Strange Engine is patchy and, again, too long for me.
I wonder if Easter could be included as a sort of mini-epic? That would be my third choice if it was there.
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 17:15 |
<<Is Neverland an epic? This is the 21st century?>> At around 11 - 12 minutes, I'd consider them epics. "Neverland" definitely. E
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 21:17 |
I think I'm the one who made that remark, E-Dub. I made it because I put it next to Grendel as the best Marillion epic. I cannot choose between both. They are very different, but I love both to pieces. (I voted for Ocean Cloud because it's behind)
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 21:53 |
Neverland doesn't really feel like an epic to me. It's always been very intimate and personal. But it deserves every second of it's length.
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 10:47 |
The only one I've heard is Grendel so it gets my vote!
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 21:32 |
Ocean Cloud is one of my favorite Marillion songs of all time
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 21:40 |
Grendel gets my vote - particularly the live version - awesome!
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 15:25 |
A close rase between TSE, Grendel and The Invisible Man. I went w/ TIM.
I actually haven't heard Ocean Cloud yet, but I ordered the two disc version of Marbels the other day.
Edited by Gravity Eyelids - September 05 2006 at 15:26
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