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Poll Question: Select your fav between I, II, III, & IV
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III. I'm basically a Zep fanboy, so all of them are masterpieces to me, but III shows how diverse they were stylistically and how talented they were as songwriters. Plus it contains the greatest blues song ever written by white boys, 'Since I've Been Loving You'.

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I can't stand Zeppelin, so can I have a special category - Can't choose, they're all dreadful! Wink
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lol Hacketeer
well I didn't imagine such on option as it was clear for me that everyone loves Led Zep! ;)
Have you already listen to any of these albums?
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Originally posted by Hacketeer Hacketeer wrote:

I can't stand Zeppelin, so can I have a special category - Can't choose, they're all dreadful! Wink
 
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How is it humanly possible not to like Led Zeppelin?
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 When I was an impressionable youth, I owned all these albums, & Song Remains, Presence, Physical Graffitti, & In Through The Out Door.
 I bought these as Zep seem to be in that "un-touchable" category, along with The Beatles, The Stones, (both of whom I do like) & The Doors (who I can't stand either). I saw through them in my late teens, strangely though, it's only in the last few years I've realised I'm not crazy about Floyd either! Please contact me for a picture to base your voodoo dolls / burning effigies on!
 Sorry guys, Zep don't do it for me, whether it's Plants un-intelligable girl-noises, or, more likely, Page's stuttering and entirely over-rated guitar playing, but I don't like them. Out of interest, the album I dislike least, is, ...Out Door, which all Zep fans I know despise.............hmmm!
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III followed by I. I like IV but it's not my fave by a long way that goes to Physical Graffiti
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III, II, IV, I
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Originally posted by Hacketeer Hacketeer wrote:

 When I was an impressionable youth, I owned all these albums, & Song Remains, Presence, Physical Graffitti, & In Through The Out Door.
 I bought these as Zep seem to be in that "un-touchable" category, along with The Beatles, The Stones, (both of whom I do like) & The Doors (who I can't stand either). I saw through them in my late teens, strangely though, it's only in the last few years I've realised I'm not crazy about Floyd either! Please contact me for a picture to base your voodoo dolls / burning effigies on!
 Sorry guys, Zep don't do it for me, whether it's Plants un-intelligable girl-noises, or, more likely, Page's stuttering and entirely over-rated guitar playing, but I don't like them. Out of interest, the album I dislike least, is, ...Out Door, which all Zep fans I know despise.............hmmm!


LOL Now that's a healthy strategy ... buy tons of albums you're *supposed* to like and find out years later that you don't like them.

Maybe "impressionable" isn't the right word ... how about "open minded"?Wink
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I voted IV because that was the perfect answer to the fans and press about the increasing critical comments that Led Zep had turned into a folk band. By the way, I love III (as an acoustic guitarplayer I am delighted about Bron-Y-Aur Stomp) but IV sounds more varied and mature to me Thumbs Up 
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IV has "The Battle Of Evermore" on it. Nuff said. Clap
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I love them all, but III and IV are their best. between those to it's a choice for Since I've Been Lovin You, what a fabulous song.

 

Stairway is nice, and when the levee breaks very good also, and Battle of Evermore is just fabulous, but as a whole I prefer III. 
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They're all diamonds, but LZ IV is a milestone masterpiece and they knew it - they even dared to leave off an album title or any writing or band references on the sleeve completely, and "let the music do the talking" !  As for that cover art - the painting Plant found in a junk shop in Reading, but the sentiment behind it is still valid today....
 
"The front cover shows a framed picture of an old man carrying a bundle of sticks on his back, slowly trudging back home after having collected his firewood. The picture is hung on the inside wall of an old cottage, the wallpaper peeling off the plaster. Open the sleeve, and the back shows that  the wall of the cottage has been either knocked down or fallen away. In the distance is a high-rise housing block, an estate the likes of which are found in every major city in the UK.....the building program had been a total failure....the old man, carrying the wood, is in harmony with nature. He takes from nature and gives back to the land, it's a natural circle. It's right. His old cottage gets pulled down and they put him in these urban slums, terrible places...."
 
 
 
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It's actually hard for me to believe Zep 4 is winning here, a prog site. Now, I was the biggest Ledhead I knew - bootlegs, collectibles, you name it - and to me, not only is 4 their weakest it's also the most over-exposed. The first three and following four blow #4 away, sorry. BTW, diehard Zep fans like 'Out Door', and SRTS is one of the finest live rock documents ever. Even 'Coda' rocks and is always fresher sounding than the fourth.
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It's a toss up between III and IV.


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It's actually hard for me to believe Zep 4 is winning here, a prog site. Now, I was the biggest Ledhead I knew - bootlegs, collectibles, you name it - and to me, not only is 4 their weakest it's also the most over-exposed. The first three and following four blow #4 away, sorry. BTW, diehard Zep fans like 'Out Door', and SRTS is one of the finest live rock documents ever. Even 'Coda' rocks and is always fresher sounding than the fourth.
 
that's not the opinion of a fan, that's the opinion of someone who knows all the records and wants to be somewhat different from the rest.
 
how do you proof to be a real fan, first thing , love something that isn't under the general consent to be the best.
 
excample (use Queen, for i am a real fan I love Hot Space Best, so I know what i'm talking about)
A real fan like us would call Queen II their best and A Kind Of Magic their worst (not counting hot space, for that's really their worst) 
 
now comes the tricky part, A Kind Of Magic is better produced the melody's come stronger out of the muysic, the rhythms are more tighter, and the songs more coherent on AKOM, so why is Queen II higher rated, because we all want to appear knowledgable, on this site progressive rules, so we take the more frantic, different approach, rather than the methodically construed songs on AKOM. technically i think A Kind of Magic is better.
 
anyone who understands me, please forget as fast as possible, for Queen I is actually their best album.
 
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For me Led Zeppelin lost it's appeal after IV, Houses of The Holy is rather boring, Physical is filled with filler material (leftover stuff and some good songs naturally) Presence and In Through The Outdoor sees them trying to regain their chemistry they had in their first four years, and coda is an afterbirth which shouldn't have been released like it was.
 
so why I choose III over IV, maybe because I am a fan of the band and want to distinguish myself by being slightly different from the rest.
 
knowing this, with a new analysation, I must agree with the persons regarding IV as the Ultimate Led Zep album, for songs like Stairway, Battle of Evermore, Rock and Roll, WHen The LEvee Breaks, and Going To California are probable better than III, I love all songs on III, but basically IV beats the hell out of every Led Z. album. and comes home unscratched.
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Whether I'm a 'real fan' or not, it has nothing to do with wanting to seem special or eccentric. It's just my humble opinion from years of intensive listening to the records and live recordings (of which there are well over 500). I'm also not the only one who thinks 4 isn't their best record, of that I am sure.
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