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micky
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Topic: Los Jaivas or Jethro Tull?... Posted: March 14 2008 at 23:11 |
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Moatilliatta
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
Posted: March 14 2008 at 23:04 | ||||
I have never been able to get into Los Jaivas. I personally don't like the vocals. It's partly that the style isn't favorable to my tastes, but I also felt like they were weak and the melodies weren't that captivating or even enjoyable. The instrumental portions of their music are decent, but they lack the vigor and tightness of Tull's work. Also, I think Tull's compositional merit is way beyond Los Jaivas'. Then I am also partial to albums with better production, with which Tull is clearly superior, even though I'm sure it's not entirely Los Jaivas' fault that they couldn't have better production. So both objectively and subjectively Tull wins by a mile.
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rubenm
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Posted: March 14 2008 at 13:28 | ||||
Los Jaivas by far. We can say that Jethro Tull has some really great albums, maybe even 1or 2 Masterpieces. But in Los Jaivas we can count 4 Masterpieces: El Indio (1975), Alturas de Macchu Picchu (1981), Obras de Violeta Parra (1984), Mamalluca (1999). And other great albums like Cancion del Sur, Sueños de América, or Aconcagua. I think Los Jaivas were more original, and they experimented more. Prove of that is their purely synphonic album Mamalluca. Tull is a really great group, and they have an amazing album, but Los Jaivas not only has richiest compositions, they also were a lot better performers. I mean I think we all can agree that the voice in Tull is not so powerfull, and it doesnt risk to much. But in Los Jaivas the voice is amazing, one of the greatest voives that ive ever heard. Also the pianist is incredible, the same with the bass and the drums (that must be one of the greatest drums of prog music, or of music in general, always doing what he has to do, always exact and powerfull).
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sircosick
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 29 2007 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1264 |
Posted: May 09 2007 at 10:20 | ||||
Surely Los Jaivas became an essential place in our progressive folk. But, as Iván said, Los Jaivas couldn't resist a comparison with Jethro Tull... They are simply terrific. Sorry compadres, my vote goes for Tull
(En todo caso, Tenken.... jaja.... se podría decir que Jethro es una de las siete maravillas de la música progresiva ) |
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Proglodita
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 23 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 192 |
Posted: May 07 2007 at 12:29 | ||||
OK. Los Jaivas.
1. JT has some songs I really don't like, like Crosed-eyed Mary or Songs from Jeffrey, but with Los Jaivas isn't this wait, except for the "Si tú no estás" album.
2. Between their bests works, I slightly prefer Thick As a Brick than Alturas the Macchu Picchu.
3. I love all the instrumentation by Los Jaivas.
In sum, my vote went to Los Jaivas.
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Proglodita
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 23 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 192 |
Posted: May 06 2007 at 20:39 | ||||
In fact they are considered here in Chile for many people as a folk band, not a rock one.
You have songs since La Poderosa Muerte to Mambo de Machaguay, very proggy and not prog (neither rock) at all, respectivly. What you always find are lots of instrument, flute, charango, ocarina, trutruca, etc.
My vote? I really don't know. I can't vote yet, but...GO CHILE!
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Cheesecakemouse
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 05 2006 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 1751 |
Posted: May 06 2007 at 19:33 | ||||
What doe Los Jaivas sound like?, do they incorporate Chillian folk music in their sound or something?, if so I'm curious, I like the idea of folk prog bands from non english spreaking world including their national/local folk sound in the music
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Novalis
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2007 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 338 |
Posted: May 06 2007 at 19:24 | ||||
Tull, but to be honest haven't heard much of Los Jaivas (mainly because their albums are pretty hard find).
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Kotro
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Posted: May 06 2007 at 16:09 | ||||
Hey T, have you heard "Obras de Violeta Parra" yet?
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Bigger on the inside.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 06 2007 at 13:48 | ||||
I love Los Jaivas, mostly "Alturas de Macchu Picchu" but they hardly resist a compariso with Jethro Tull.
Los Jaivas ar not as influential, trascendental, versatile or an important part of Progressive Rock as Jethro Tull.
Sorry, but that's my opinion.
Iván
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Spacemac
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 15 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1626 |
Posted: May 06 2007 at 10:09 | ||||
Jethro Tull
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RaphaelT
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Posted: May 06 2007 at 04:29 | ||||
Although Jethro Tull is much more important in general history of prog, I have voted for Los Jaivas to keep the distance short - and Jethro Tull are SO great that it can't hurt their role in history
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yet you still have time!
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Kurpij
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Posted: May 05 2007 at 21:59 | ||||
Wow,good question
I must say jethro tull
But i love both
"Se extraña al Gato"
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Tenken
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 25 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 162 |
Posted: December 11 2006 at 13:42 | ||||
really I think that Neruda is more known than Los Jaivas, but that's another topic |
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¡¡El Rocanrol no morirá jamás!!
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Sublimación
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Posted: December 11 2006 at 11:18 | ||||
i think, "la poderosa Muerte" is one of the best`s Chilean, and world songs ever. i recomend it to all the people that don`t now them. Los Jaivas "las alturas de Machupichu" is a record based on a Pablo Neruda`s poem. (if you don`t no who is Pablo Neruda you no nothing about poetry)
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Logan
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 23:03 | ||||
Not generally well-known, or known at all by most, but pretty well-known and well-respected by serious Progheads -- this international Prog community (ProgArchives) having many serious Progheads who know their Prog. Great band, and well-liked by quite a few at this site that I know of -- this is my, and others, Progressive world now, and it has no borders. They have two albums in the Prog Folk 20 key studio albums list, that's some good loving. They deserve it. |
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Tenken
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 25 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 162 |
Posted: December 10 2006 at 21:58 | ||||
jaja yeah compadre!! now they are 15 against 22, even this "score" it's too much for Los Jaivas I think!! I thought Jethro was gonna Rush!!! jajaja (esta custión es como cuando votamos por los "moais" de la isla de pascua pa las 7 maravillas del mundo jaja) Edited by Tenken - December 12 2006 at 21:34 |
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¡¡El Rocanrol no morirá jamás!!
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Tenken
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 25 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 162 |
Posted: December 10 2006 at 21:52 | ||||
Quite interesting what you say because I didn't even know that Los Jaivas were so known in other Counties so far. I really thought that Jethro Tull was going to win for much much more because obviously they are more famous and more popular than Los Jaivas but I've been sorprised. Anyway, I like Both Bands, they are Great!!! |
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¡¡El Rocanrol no morirá jamás!!
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Tenken
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 25 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 162 |
Posted: December 10 2006 at 21:45 | ||||
Exactly!! you're right, but judging with their difernt Styles and same clasification, I think they surely can be compared, each one with their own characteristics. But anyway I know their sound is very different and that makes it more interesting. |
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¡¡El Rocanrol no morirá jamás!!
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peter_gabriel
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 22 2006 Status: Offline Points: 354 |
Posted: December 08 2006 at 14:31 | ||||
No its not a joke... See above GO CHILE |
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