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Maverick 
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 13:15 |
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I found out about this band not so long ago. I've all of their albums. The only album I don't like is 'Catch Without Arms' because of delay-overuse on all the songs.
I can't make up the word to describe Dredg's genre, but I think it's PROG indeed. 'El Cielo' is pure prog, I think. 'Leitmotif' sounds good, but there are some moments with ugly vocals. All in all, Dredg's music is great.
Your opinions about DREDG?
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Arsillus
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 13:17 |
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I got Catch Without Arms a while ago. It's pretty good, but not my cup of tea. They have progressive tendencies, though.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 14:01 |
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I would call them Alternative emo prog, though I havent heard all their albums
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 14:18 |
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I have only heard Leitmotif so far, but it's a good album and I do consider it Prog.
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Maverick
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 14:21 |
Emo? Yeah, maybe 'Catch Without Arms' is a bit emo. Then, 'Leitmotif' is a bit alternative and 'El Cielo' is in the middle of those two genres. All together = prog. 
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 14:40 |
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One of these days I'm going to have to check out el cielo. I have catch without arms and it's kind of "ok but not great".
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eugene
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 14:43 |
 el bцthy wrote:
I would call them Alternative emo prog, though I havent heard all their albums |
Heard them all and basically I agree with you - alternative emo with prog tendencies.
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Mikerinos
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 14:52 |
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I have their debut, Leitmotif. It's good... sort of proggy sort of indie/hard rockish. I'd like to check out their later output soon.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 14:53 |
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If Porcupine Tree, Radiohead and Muse are considered prog, then I see no reason why Dredg shouldn't be.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 15:10 |
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El Cielo was pretty modern proggy in the Radioheadish sense, I thought. Catch Without Arms isn't at all, though I do enjoy it. Sounds like modern rock album based around a love of delay to me. If that's prog, then the Deftones, Catherine Wheel, Hum and even some U2 songs are prog too. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 15:19 |
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although I enjoyed El Cielo, I don't consider Dredg prog at all. Just very heroic rock. Most bands like to experiment a little bit now and then, and El Cielo had some interesting composition on it, but if you start equating that to prog then the classification becomes useless - every band develops their sound apartfromRammstein. I'm somewhat against Radiohead, Tool and Muse being referred to as prog but I'll admit they're a cut above most modern rock acts, so if you consider these intelligent rock acts to be progressive then Dredg fits in amongst them.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 15:35 |
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Their a bit borderline prog often close to alternative rock as well, but many of the "new prog" bands are in the same style as Dredg. Two examples that pop into my mind are Oceansize and Pure Reason Revolution. If neo prog was the prog of the 80's and retro prog and prog metal were the prog of the 90's then I believe this more mainstream-ish prog will be the one for the 00's.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 18:11 |
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Other than Catch Without Arms, they are surely a prog band. Catch Witout Arms is considerably more straightforward, though not bad. They are by no means an emo band though, as some of you are saying.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 18:20 |
Heff wrote:
If Porcupine Tree, Radiohead and Muse are considered prog, then I see no reason why Dredg shouldn't be. |
i agree with this, although i've never heard muse labeled prog. and who said dredg is emo? 
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 19:02 |
The only album I own by them, Catch without Arms, is apparently not as proggy as their earlier work, yet I think even that album is at least prog-related, and pure masterliness! 
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 19:04 |
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I'm listening to Orph right now. It's my second favorite by Dredg. A close-second to El Cielo. Orph is as best as I can describe it... Progressive Screamo. One of the best damned EPs ever. I love this disc.
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 20:12 |
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They are absolutely prog and excellent at that. El Cielo is one of modern art rock's finest albums, Leitmotif is also a very progressive album which wanders into RIO/Avant. If all of their albums were like Catch Without Arms, they'd be prog-related, but still not entirely non-prog. It's still a very enjoyable album though. I hope with the next album they go back to the earlier sound.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 20:13 |
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emo = prog?
Thats HIGH LARRYIOUS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
but anyways...
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 20:16 |
ResidentAlien wrote:
I'm listening to Orph right now. It's my second favorite by Dredg. A close-second to El Cielo. Orph is as best as I can describe it... Progressive Screamo. One of the best damned EPs ever. I love this disc.
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I think it's pretty weak actually, and not very progressive at all... 
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 20:17 |
Atomic_Rooster wrote:
emo = prog?
Thats HIGH LARRYIOUS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
but anyways...
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Are you implying that Dredg are emo? 
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