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    Posted: December 15 2006 at 21:13
Do you think the Grateful Dead are Prog related?
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No, they're not. I love Grateful Dead, but I don't see any connection with prog.
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I never listened to Grateful Dead ... but I bought Blues for Allah a while ago in a second hand record store, because I thought the cover looked cool and I remembered some people talking about the album here.

I guess I'll put it on after I finished Adrian Belew - Side One.Big smile
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Well actually the Agitation Free bootleg I am currently listening too seems pretty similar to the early Grateful Dead stuff like Dark Star, but no I would not say they have anything to do with prog.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I never listened to Grateful Dead ... but I bought Blues for Allah a while ago in a second hand record store, because I thought the cover looked cool and I remembered some people talking about the album here.I guess I'll put it on after I finished Adrian Belew - Side One.



That's a great album. It's one of their most structured works and, actually, rather proggy.

If pushed I will say the Dead are not prog-related, but on a good night, there was nothing like them-- master musicians weaving their dreams on stage. Progressive music in a most intuitive, joyus and human way.
    
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2006 at 10:43
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I never listened to Grateful Dead ... but I bought Blues for Allah a while ago in a second hand record store, because I thought the cover looked cool and I remembered some people talking about the album here.I guess I'll put it on after I finished Adrian Belew - Side One.



That's a great album. It's one of their most structured works and, actually, rather proggy.

If pushed I will say the Dead are not prog-related, but on a good night, there was nothing like them-- master musicians weaving their dreams on stage. Progressive music in a most intuitive, joyus and human way.
    


I just heard that album for the first time yesterday. There are definitely some moments that struck me as prog (Sage & Spirit). However, I don't think the bulk of their music fits the criteria.


    
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Points: 24391 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2006 at 10:56
I moved this to Suggest Bands/Artists, as the Dead are not yet in PA. The PP/PR lounge is for bands or artists that are already included in the site's database.
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Great band, not prog though. They were part of the psychedelic movement (which developed into prog), but they aren't prog.
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A friend of mine is a Deadhead. I once borrowed a load of Dead LPs to see what they sounded like. Didn't like anything about them apart from the LP sleeves.
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Grateful Dead are psychedelic IMO.
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I agree that they don't belong here, but they recorded a handful of great "prog" tunes. Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2006 at 11:30
Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.


Then listen to the rest of their repertoire & tell me it's not a load of dreary old twaddle!
    

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.


Then listen to the rest of their repertoire & tell me it's not a load of dreary old twaddle!
    
 
I'm not dis-agreeing with you, as I said, they don't belong here, but that one song could have just as easily come from many of the bands that are on this site.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2006 at 12:20
It's OK, I was being facetious - I really tried to get into GD & of the 7/8 albums I've heard (including three which were recommended to me as 'classics'), all I heard was mediocre playing & watered down west coast country-rock

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Points: 1497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2006 at 12:26
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

It's OK, I was being facetious - I really tried to get into GD & of the 7/8 albums I've heard (including three which were recommended to me as 'classics'), all I heard was mediocre playing & watered down west coast country-rock


I have to agree. I guess you need to be in Cali with a convertable and a spliff
     
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2006 at 16:25
I still can't get over the shock of someone suggesting the Grateful Dead should be in the archives.

Wow.


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Points: 828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2006 at 17:35
Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

I agree that they don't belong here, but they recorded a handful of great "prog" tunes. Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.


All you need to do now is find about four more prog songs and they'll be approved for prog-related!
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Points: 3928 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2006 at 17:45
Not a chance, imo. The prog songs people mention that always are from those two albums 'Terrapin Station' and 'Blues For Allah'. I've heard both and I can't say either had even a track that struck me as prog. Those albums had some cod reggae stuff on, I seem to recall!!

I'd say there was more of a country/blues flavour to their work than a prog one, even the lengthier stuff is not prog, it's just lengthy jams. I wouldn't go out of my way to own anymore albums of this band really...the ones I have are all decent enough but I don't really see why they are THAT revered.

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