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  Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: ALL Prog From Italy Appreciation Thread
    Posted: October 27 2009 at 14:40
Right on Todd!
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  Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2009 at 14:49
^  We all are, at least slightly, different. If this approach works for Todd and perhaps for others it's good.
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  Quote Alberto Muñoz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2009 at 15:05
Originally posted by NotAProghead

^ IMHO a good example how reviews should not be written.
This reviewer always uses the same formula: track number - instrument - the time when the instrument or voice comes (starts, kicks in) - rating.
Simple way to write something and say nothing.
 
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  Quote Todd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2009 at 15:14
One of the great things about PA is that if there are multiple reviews for albums, chances are one or more of them will resonate with someone looking for guidance.  Different styles for different personalities.
 
On the RPI side, I'm really enjoying Arti e Mestieri's box set, "33."  The included CD is a montage of many archival tracks from over the years, combined with a modern rerecording of those tracks, seamlessly interwoven for 70+ minutes of glorious music!  The set is expensive, but I've really enjoyed this, and I haven't even seen the two DVDs yet.  The book is nicely done.  If you like the band, you really should consider this before it's no longer available.
 


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Aria
Alan Sorrenti Rock Progressivo Italiano

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4 stars Intriguing and very beautiful, Aria is a slightly convoluted listening experience that stays with you for quite some time. Alan Sorrenti manages to evoke both subtle and confronting soundscapes with remarkable depth and precision at a detail level, which makes the album a different experience every time, and succeeds in taking you to different states of mind depending on what mood you're in.

Melancholic and meditative at heart, but with an underdog edge and passion that makes the music soar from time to time, positively vibrating with a tense, direct presence. Part of this success lies in Sorrenti's stunning vocal talents, with an acrobatic fragility that tells a story of its own regardless of the musical backing. He twists and turns the meaning and expression in every word - sometimes simply because he can.

Dominated by the twenty minute long title piece, it's hard to pinpoint any specific musical direction. Perhaps it's best described as a foundation of spacey folk and Italian melodrama drawing on a number of ethnic influences, which then builds up and descends into excursions of other styles. Never is this more apparent than on the epic song Aria. Humbly starting with understated guitar and sweet and mellow keys with a windy, cold effect in the background, the mood is set instantaneously; wistful, lonely, rainy and autumnal. Meandering slowly onwards, the song efficiently envelops in a series of dynamic percussion subtleties, naked piano runs and expressive, meaningful guitar phrases. The composition is so accurate, so natural, so very carefully applied you wilfully get lost in its intricacies. And all of a sudden the song's picked up speed in a near-symphonic mini-crescendo, with a strong base of organ and a whirling, individualistic violin performance from Jean-Luc Ponty (wonderful addition), neatly complementing and accentuating Sorrenti's spontaneous vocals. Further down the road, Aria captures the spirit of the first six or so minutes, but flesh out the influences and styles even further. It visits familiar, mysterious symphonic forays of bands such as Museo Rosenbach, Celtic as well as Latin delicacies, Battiato-esque percussion and even dares an approach to almost jazz territory. And all of the time maintaining that dreamy, complex style that makes it all so fascinating.

With the exception of Vorrei Incontrarti, which has a decidedly more romantic, ballad-like and simpler edge, the rest of the songs follow the same pattern as Aria. Perhaps never as successfully, emotionally charged or as accurately, but still with the same artistic goal to them, in taking something familiar and turning into something new, explorative and way more colourful and daring than it appears at first glance. This is the strength of the great progressive Italian singer-songwriters of the seventies, and this might very well be one of the best examples of it, far removed from the sentimental sweetness often associated with the country during later decades.

4 stars.

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Comes with the warmest of recommendations. Almost gave it the full five stars. Simply a stunning and unique album. 



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  Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2009 at 16:38
Good stuff from Linus and Area70Thumbs Up

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 Alphataurus by ALPHATAURUS album cover Studio Album, 1973
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Alphataurus Rock Progressivo Italiano

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5 stars Dark, brooding Italian prog from the mid-point in the first wave of bands. The band took some cues from Deep Purple and Black Sabbath for their heavy, earthy tone, but they have many "pure" progressive cues as well. The vocalist is strong and assured and is the focal point of the album. The guitar and rhythym section, as noted, is rockin' out on the heavier side, much like Museo Rosenbach. The keyboards keep the heavier aspects focused and help the dense atmosphere from going a bit off-kilter through all the fuzzed out guitars and dark vocals. The cover alone is worth picking up, especially the special edition digipac. A great example of how well some Italian bands worked with light and gloom - highly recommended in a basic Ital-prog library.

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  Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2009 at 19:14
New RPI baby added today.  Did I beat you on this one Todd?? LOLWink

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  Quote Todd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2009 at 19:47
Yes you did, Jim!  I do look forward to hearing that one.  I'm waiting for Greg Walker to have it in stock, and he said he should have it soon.  Good news about the new Algebra and Minstrel, too!  Those should be good.  RPI is a wonderful thing!
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  Quote memowakeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2009 at 22:01
Originally posted by Finnforest

New RPI baby added today.  Did I beat you on this one Todd?? LOLWink

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  Quote avestin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2009 at 15:41
Now available States side from Wayside and Laser's Edge:



Orme - Universal Music Collection 11 CD box set (remastered)

SKU 09/UNIVERSAL 2715654
This extremely specially priced set includes all of the albums that this classic Italian classical rock/progressive rock band recorded for Phillips during the 1970s. The individual titles are:
Collage
Uomo di Pezza
Felona e Sorona
Contrappunti
Orme in Concerto
Somgmagica
Verità Nascoste
Storia o Leggenda
Florian
Piccola Rapsodia dell’ape
Orme



Various Artists - Progressive Italia Gli Anno '70 Volume One : 6 CD box set (remastered)

SKU 09/UNIVERSAL 2172176
This specially priced set includes a number of really classic titles from first tier bands of 1970s Italian progressive rock. For some of these titles, this marks their first-ever CD release and all of them have been digitally remastered by Maurizio Biancani at Fonoprint in Bologna. The albums are:
Balletto di bronzo-Ys
De De Lind-Io non so da Dove Vengo…
Jumbo-Vietato ai Minori di 18 Anni
Sensations’ Fix-Portable Madness
Latte e Miele-Passio Secundum Mattheum
Mauro Pelosi-Al Mercato degli Uomini Piccoli



Various Artists - Progressive Italia Gli Anno '70 Volume Two : 6 CD box set (remastered)

SKU 09/UNIVERSAL 2172202
This specially priced set includes a number of really classic titles from first tier bands of 1970s Italian progressive rock. For some of these titles, this marks their first-ever CD release and all of them have been digitally remastered by Maurizio Biancani at Fonoprint in Bologna. The albums are:
Locanda delle fate-Forse le Lucciole non si amano più
Sensations’ Fix-Finest Finger
Ibis-Ibis
Roberto Cacciapaglia-Sei Note in Logica
Pasquale Minieri/Giorgio Vivaldi-Carnascialia
Stradaperta-Maida Vale



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  Quote akajazzman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2009 at 23:39
Dudes, DFA's "4th" was the best album of 2008.   I just want to reach out and tell every Prog fan in the world how freakin' fantastic that album is.  I stumbled onto it, and couldn't believe how great it was. Seriously, I played it over and over to make sure I wasn't hearing ripped off P.F.M., Brand X, Hatfield and the North, Weather Report and ELP riffs.  Nope!  They came up with this stuff on their own, and its not as derivative as my last sentence implied either.  If you have a remote interest in Prog Fusion, I promise you'll love this CD.
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  Quote 1967/ 1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2009 at 05:06
 Live... Somewhere In The Seventies by VENEGONI &amp; CO album cover Live, 2003
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Live... Somewhere In The Seventies
Venegoni & Co Jazz Rock/Fusion

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5 stars IMPRESS I STAYED... RPI OR JR?

With this live (published in 2003 but recorded in 1977) RPI is at his last great 70's gems. Certainly if you think that Venegoni & Co. plays JR you are in the road but certainly this band plays also RPI because the arrangements are RPI. Because RPI is in Venegoni & Co. matrix is impossible that an RPI fan do not please Venegoni & Co. that in this 'Live... Somewhere In The Seventies...' plays RPI due to arrangements and spirit. Ok, with Arti+ (E) Mestieri Gigi Venegoni plays a great JR with RPI moments but with his band Gigi plays a great mix between JR and RPI, quite biased towards the RPI to please fans of the RPI more that Arti+ (E) Mestieri. In my opinion, Therefore, venegoni & Co. are more a RPI band that a JR band, also if Arti+ (E) Mestieri are more considered RPI for the masses.

More that technical in the musical explosion of this 'Live... Somewhere In The Seventies...' is the feeling that explode. Not for this fact the technique is absent. Only that the technique not transpires, as if what is desired. In other words Venegoni & Co. are pure stage animals. And this is the winning element of this CD.

It is strange to not see in this live the pure fire of technique, at the same time, because the good plays is evident. In my opinion this is the second plan of the victory of this album. Great is the naturality of power in this album with so technical songs. Probably is the fact that the tranformation of different superstructures of the songs into something playable on stage has an enormous weight. And this is a great merit. So is impossible to speak song for song in this album, proper because the mind is focused more in the power of the song that in the technique.

In conclusion... With my love for this CD I think that if you love (or simply please) RPI this is another pure gem for you.

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  Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2009 at 11:06
Originally posted by akajazzman

Dudes, DFA's "4th" was the best album of 2008.   I just want to reach out and tell every Prog fan in the world how freakin' fantastic that album is.  I stumbled onto it, and couldn't believe how great it was. Seriously, I played it over and over to make sure I wasn't hearing ripped off P.F.M., Brand X, Hatfield and the North, Weather Report and ELP riffs.  Nope!  They came up with this stuff on their own, and its not as derivative as my last sentence implied either.  If you have a remote interest in Prog Fusion, I promise you'll love this CD.


Oh yeah Jazzman....most of the cats hanging out in this thread know all about DFA's 4th.....and agree with your enthusiasm.  Smile
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  Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2009 at 11:08
Originally posted by memowakeman

Originally posted by Finnforest

New RPI baby added today.  Did I beat you on this one Todd?? LOLWink

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25706



 
Shocked New Latte e Miele Shocked, has anyone listened to it, already¡?



Pretty good Guillermo, more sunny than harsh.  Will try to review it soon. 
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Thanks Finnforest.  I should have known that, based on the insight and length of this thread.  But its such a long thread I haven't had a chance to find the DFA lovers.  I'm glad to hear others on this thread agree. Clap I have DFA's other albums, and they're very good, but I can't believe the jump ahead "4th" is.   I'm no Prog newbie either, I have a massive Prog collection, and "for me" I think its the best Prog album since the 70s.  I want to fly to Italy and shake their hands, thank them, and ask them for another please.  I know DFA went years without releasing an album, and they have day jobs and all, I sure hope still keep DFA going though.
 
I also wish more fans of the album would give it a score/review on Progarchives, its needs to climb into more people's attention.
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  Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2009 at 14:36
I agree.  C'mon guys!!  Review the DFA please!! 

They actually just played here in the States a few months ago, with PFM, at one of the big festies.  I wish I could have seen them. 
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  Quote andrea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2009 at 15:28
Originally posted by akajazzman

Thanks Finnforest.  I should have known that, based on the insight and length of this thread.  But its such a long thread I haven't had a chance to find the DFA lovers.  I'm glad to hear others on this thread agree. Clap I have DFA's other albums, and they're very good, but I can't believe the jump ahead "4th" is.   I'm no Prog newbie either, I have a massive Prog collection, and "for me" I think its the best Prog album since the 70s.  I want to fly to Italy and shake their hands, thank them, and ask them for another please.  I know DFA went years without releasing an album, and they have day jobs and all, I sure hope still keep DFA going though.
 
I also wish more fans of the album would give it a score/review on Progarchives, its needs to climb into more people's attention.
 
Since you're new I think useful repost this link where you can watch a DFA's concert:
 
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 Autumn Symphony by HOSTSONATEN album cover Studio Album, 2009
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Hostsonaten Rock Progressivo Italiano

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4 stars I get the first kick at this one! On Halloween night, I must be blessed!

Höstsonaten is an established offshoot project from the energetic, prolific and polyvalent Fabio Zuffanti , Italy's version of Steve Wilson or Roine Stolt, who has cemented such fabled RPI acts as Finisterre and La Maschera di Cera. His musical resumé is too long to list but he can be heard delving into prog versions of folk, jazz, ambient and symphonic. A masterful bassist but most of all, a creative mind, he has nurtured this project for more than a decade now and "Autumnsymphony" is the latest chapter in the seasonal cycle that began with the pastoral masterpiece "Springsong" and the ridiculously fabulous previous jewel "Winterthrough", two albums that I regard as symphonic monuments in reflective /introspective prog. Suffice to say I was awaiting this one with unbridled trepidation being a massive fan of the fall season to boot but after a few anguished spins, I cannot really raise this one beyond the other 2 ?yet. The artwork is as breathtaking as the preceding one, winter blues replaced by fall ochre and golden hues, setting the melancholic mood that autumn generally evokes. Significantly, the initial forlorn soundscapes on "Open windows to autumn" recall the sorrow of rustling trees shedding their crisp leaves, a binary double bass echoing between the fluttering cymbals and polyrhythmic drum patters, a brilliant trumpet blaring the sudden flight from the warm summer breeze. This is highly robust ambient prog with jazzy pretense, gently howling mellotron entering hand in hand with its usual ideal partner, the flute. It is certainly a haunting musical signature that sets the proper mood and segues nicely into "Leaves in the well" introducing guitarist Matteo Nahum's glowing electric guitar leads as well as some welcome classical work, with an only too rare added feature, the Japanese koto. The evolving keyboard-laced symphonics are pointedly accurate, choir mellotron injecting some grandeur and majesty while Marco Moro's flute sprinkles its sweet passion. On "Out of water", things get very orchestral with the impromptu appearance of cello, viola, violin, oboe and piccolo, blending the swirl of fluttering strains into the mix. "Nightswan I" is a special effects cocktail, heavily electronic and with the rumbling double bass, highly contemplative, while "II" raises the level another notch with another majestic series of electric guitar runs, a rampant flute , simple drum beat and whirling synths, the 'tron coughing , this is pure proggy bliss. The very jazzy "As the night?" has an amazing bagpipe setting, somberly pensive in league with that amazing Michele Bernabei trumpet (an instrument criminally underused in prog!), some churning Stick work, and a little Genoese whispering to add some spice. Stringsynth and mellotron are served up as bonus candy coating. The jazz vibe gets rather upbeat on "Trees in November", a playful romp that has shuffling drums, fun-loving flute and a guitar solo at first closer to George Benson than Steve Hackett (which happens later), a welcome surprise. "Elegy" has the sublime voice of Simone Angioloni who "lead microphoned" Zuffanti's brilliant Aries project, a soaringly crisp voice that wails passionately , almost near opera , a definite winner. The final nearly 6 minute track is the absolute winner here, incorporating all the glorious musicianship displayed previously = the double bass, the various strings, the elegant piano and mellotron, the flute, trumpets and oboe and that crystal clear voice. As stated earlier, this is an excellent release that cannot surpass the imperial majesty of "Winterthrough" but shores up the RPI mantle very nicely and it is Halloween after all. 4.5 aromatic chestnut trees

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Another first review today!Clap
 
 A Sense Of Loss by NOSOUND album cover Studio Album, 2009
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3 stars I think this would be an excellent addition to any collection. It's classified as Psychadelic/Space Rock, but it's symphonic enough for my tastes. There is little droning and avoids the harmony-by-repetition, and not fully resolved harmonies thing that happens with a lot of "space music".

There is a seqment of droning half way through the well-done Winter Will Come, but it ends up resolving itself nicely into a legato harmony of broad string movements. This song is the highlight of the album for me, and well worth it's 15 minutes.

I guess I could say that this sounds somewhat like Porcupine Tree, and it reminds me of the more abstract stuff that Big Big Train is doing these days, like in the filler tracks in Difference Machine. But it just doesn't sound quite as derivative as that. Gigi Zito's drums, well-featured in Some Warmth into this Chill often have the spontaneous, cymbal dominant feel that Lee Harris gave Talk Talk at their best.

My real rating is more like 3.5, but I round it to a 3 simply because I can't recommend it as "excellent" to people who might find it "too similar" to PT. In the end, the sounds capture the "Sense of Loss" in the title, without being boring and morose and gave me enough to want to listen to the rest of their history.


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