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    Posted: April 25 2007 at 02:52
Is it possible (probably I am just being thick this morning) to see who has given a rating (without review) for an album???

I have a feeling that the rating without review facility is mainly used by 1star trollers and would like to test the theory more....... I don't know if it is possible, and even if it is what can be done...... just wondering......


Fanks for your help guys!
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I will say it once again. We shouldn't allow a rating without a review.
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We were allowed to see who rated once, but that was withdrawnby M@X.
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You can no longer see who rated what unless they have a written review to acompany it..
 
I'm with bhikkhu on this one...
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Points: 1991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2007 at 12:30
Yes usually the rating appeared with no words following.
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2007 at 21:47

You can see what an individual has rated (just click the link to an individual's page and you'll see the list of that persons ratings, including the ones without reviews).

 
There isn't such a possibility on an album level, which like S. Dog mentioned once was available, but that was deleted because it made the page unreadable.
 
I would like to see it back up with a little adjustement, to put those ratings behind a link, so normally it doesn't show, but when wanted it can be seen by visitors, or us, by simple clicking the link.
 
this way the ratings without reviews would add a little more information than currently.
 
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Points: 2696 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 09:35
and I guess it would avoid the temptation for less scrupulous folk to just 1 star an entire catalogue of the band they love to hate just drag the ratings down.....
I am definitely with bhikkhu and Tony on this......
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A few months ago I reviewed the excellent William Gray album entitled Living Fossils, I rated it with four stars but very soon this rating got a major blow by somebody who gave this album one star without reviewing it, this should not be allowed. Imagine I go rating without reviewing and deliberately give Iron Maiden, The Beatles, Magnum and Blue Oyster Cult one star, it would only cause a lot of annoyement and anger  OuchAngry so please stop the rating without review facility, I even have the idea that some frustrated progheads got the pleasure in their life out of teasing reviewers by one star ratings without a review Unhappy !

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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

I will say it once again. We shouldn't allow a rating without a review.
 
I couldn't agree more.


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

I will say it once again. We shouldn't allow a rating without a review.
 
I couldn't agree more.


Same here. I'd even say: delete all existing ratings without review and don't allow any new ones.
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Points: 7606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 10:12
I think the problem with that change would be that it would combine with the "reviews in english only" rule to exclude people who don't speak english from influencing album ratings.
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^ I don't care. This website is about writing reviews in the English language ... it's the core feature.
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I think it was already discussed and M@X chose to keep the ratings without reviews just to the people who cannot write in English have the write to voice their opinions.

But tracking the reviews without ratings could be useful even if it is just for some special collab or admin who would try to detect reviewers that gave the same pattern of reviews to all albums of an artist (like 1 star) and delete them.

Many times I was checking a discography of a rather unknown band (with 4, 5 ratings) and noticed that there were in all albums a review without rating rating 2 stars, for example, so I think these ratings are not appropriated.
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 13:09
Well, how about this. Members that don't speak english can submit a review in their native language. It will then be translated by someone who speaks both. I believe we have just about every language represented by people who also speak english. Heck, Mandrakeroot is even writing his reviews in English now.
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Points: 1991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 13:11
How about a translation team?Thumbs%20Up
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 20:09
Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

How about a translation team?Thumbs%20Up
 
interesting idea guys...Guigo????
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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 20:19
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

How about a translation team?Thumbs%20Up
 
interesting idea guys...Guigo????
 
Do you know how many languages they speak in The Netherlands? Wink Check the "Happy Birthday" message board posted by Erik! Big%20smile
 
Anyway, imagine the amount of reviews in several languages dominating the mainpage while the Translation Team is still managing to translate some of them... Shocked
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Points: 1991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 20:27
Hey well at least there are four spanish-speaking guys, about 2 or 3 brazilian-speaking guys (perhaps Tarciso Moura or however his name's spelled would help, as well as akin), some few english speaking guysWink  and italian speakers.
 
I think if we reunite people who can help the idea can be realised
 
But I'm just thinking out loud. The idea obviously needs to be discussed/refined


Edited by Chus - April 26 2007 at 20:28
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 22:29
There shouldn't be a translation team.
 
just issue those reviews in a foreign language and hide the content and regard it as a raing without review, just make it accesible through a link from the albums page.
 
so if wanted these reviews can be seen if really wanted. and else the ratings is at least accepted.
 
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Points: 600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2007 at 22:39

Reviews only in English...
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