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    Posted: May 21 2007 at 23:53
There's so much nonsense been written about Tool's 'Lateralus' it defies belief. One of the biggest misconceptions is to do with the use of the Fibonacci sequence in the song 'Lateralus'.

Many seem to think that the words to the song mirror the numerical sequence, and that by, wait for it... by counting the syllables in each verse, a pattern of 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, etc is reveled. Sorry to disillusion anyone, but it's just not true. So I feel it's time to set the record straight on this issue.

First of all, yes, the lyrics are about the Fibonacci sequence. And, yes, there is correlation between the sequence and the music. The correlation is this:

The 16th step in the Fibonacci sequence is 987.

( 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89,144, 233, 377, 610 ,987 ).

The distinctive riff which is heard after the quiet introduction has a time signature of 9/8 + 8/8+ 7/8 (987). An entirely fortuitous coincidence. Drummer, Danny Carey had this to say about it:

"Originally it was called '9-8-7' because there was a bar of 9, 8 and 7 and it had such a nice hook to it...It turned out that Maynard (James Keenan, Tool's vocalist) wrote these words about spirals, which were based on the Fibonacci sequence; the 978 is one of the steps on the sequence. We were so amazed at the synchronicity of it"

From 'Rhythm' magazine, August 2002.

So you see, there was no grand design on Tool's part to incorporate the sequence into their music, as many Tool fans like to believe. BUT it's not too surprising that a band as esoteric as Tool could create the climate for such synchronicity to manifest itself.

'With my feet upon the ground, I lose myself between the sounds

and open wide to suck it in, I feel it move across my skin.

I'm reaching up and reaching out,

I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.

What ever will bewilder me

And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.

We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.

Spiral out. Keep going,

Spiral out. Keep going,

Spiral out. Keep going,

Spiral out. Keep going,

Spiral out. Keep going..'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2007 at 23:58
^^^
I like this even better
God must have put the ideas in their heads at the same time on purpose
more proof that Tool is gods favourite band (as much as Tool dosn't care)
 
 
Screw that it's a fuc*ing awsome song
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 00:26
Once I read something about the order to listen the album. Again, the Fibonacci sequence: You skip Mantra (4), then Parabol/Parabola (6/7), and then I don't remember. But, yes, another game with Lateralus and Fibonacci.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 00:49
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

^^^
I like this even better
God must have put the ideas in their heads at the same time on purpose
more proof that Tool is gods favourite band (as much as Tool dosn't care)
 
 
Screw that it's a fuc*ing awsome song

Indeed its an awesome song, Lateralus is sort of like the Da Vinci Code of Tool, so many rumors and coincidences.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 02:29
funny what some people consider to be awsome  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 15:18
hmmm... interesting
 
Mr. proletariat, I really doubt tool is gods fivirote bandSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 15:28
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

hmmm... interesting
 

Mr. proletariat, I really doubt tool is gods fivirote bandSmile


Yeah, it's Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 15:31
Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

hmmm... interesting
 

Mr. proletariat, I really doubt tool is gods fivirote bandSmile


Yeah, it's Rush.


And here I was about to make a joke about God liking Genesis... It is, after all, his first book. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 17:49
What? it´s all false?... oh... now I hate Tool...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 17:56
Tool is Fibonacci
I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 19:51
Tool is the universe!!!!!!1
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 20:03
Originally posted by yface1 yface1 wrote:

Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

hmmm... interesting
 

Mr. proletariat, I really doubt tool is gods fivirote bandSmile


Yeah, it's Rush.


And here I was about to make a joke about God liking Genesis... It is, after all, his first book. Wink
God wrote Exodus too and I highly doubt he likes the things they have to say about him
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2007 at 23:57
black   (1)
and  (1)
white are  (2)
all I see   (3)
in my infancy   (5)
red and yellow then came to be   (8)
reaching out to me   (5)
lets me see   (3)
there is   (2)
so  (1)
much   (1)
more that  (2)
beckons me  (3)
to look through to these   (5)
infinite possibilities  (8)
as below so above and beyond I imagine   (13)
drawn beyond the lines of reason  (8)
push the envelope (5)
watch it bend   (3)

don't try to tell me that's a coincidence.  The lines are broken up just that way with pauses in the song.  I'm not saying it's the most brilliant stroke of genius ever, but it's pretty cool and it's definitely there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 00:32
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

black   (1)
and  (1)
white are  (2)
all I see   (3)
in my infancy   (5)
red and yellow then came to be   (8)
reaching out to me   (5)
lets me see   (3)
there is   (2)
so  (1)
much   (1)
more that  (2)
beckons me  (3)
to look through to these   (5)
infinite possibilities  (8)
as below so above and beyond I imagine   (13)
drawn beyond the lines of reason  (8)
push the envelope (5)
watch it bend   (3)

don't try to tell me that's a coincidence.  The lines are broken up just that way with pauses in the song.  I'm not saying it's the most brilliant stroke of genius ever, but it's pretty cool and it's definitely there.

Is it just me , or does it seem like there are more pauses than that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 00:33
just you. Tongue
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