Political discussion thread

Since when is equality such a good thing anyway? And "progressive" might be good in rock music, but I'm not so sure in other areas. Also, this stupid thing makes republicans look downright islamic. Even for Slarti's standards, this... Not even a cartoon... this propaganda is quite idiotic. Seems like what a couple of pre-teens discussing politics would say at each other...

^Quite true. 

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Originally posted by stonebeard Originally posted by The Truth I'm agnostic  Give it time.

I really don't care though.

Originally posted by stonebeard Originally posted by The Truth Originally posted by stonebeard Originally posted by The Truth I'm agnostic  Give it time.  I really don't care though. Best attitude to have as far as other people's beliefs. I do care about breaking atheism out into the spotlight. I'd wager maybe 30% or more of Americans are really atheist, but either haven't really thought about it or are scared to admit it. And I'd probably say about 50% of the people I know are atheist, or at least apathetic deists.

If nothing beyond our imagination exists, who really gives a crap anyway? Atheism and agnosticism should not be widely promoted because it's just annoying to those who don't want to admit it. Same goes for the other way around though.

That's why I'm an agnostic, anything that has to do with atheism or any religion just cause conflict and at the end of the day all that matters is the personal belief.

Originally posted by The Truth Originally posted by stonebeard Originally posted by The Truth Originally posted by stonebeard Originally posted by The Truth I'm agnostic  Give it time.  I really don't care though. Best attitude to have as far as other people's beliefs. I do care about breaking atheism out into the spotlight. I'd wager maybe 30% or more of Americans are really atheist, but either haven't really thought about it or are scared to admit it. And I'd probably say about 50% of the people I know are atheist, or at least apathetic deists.  If nothing beyond our imagination exists, who really gives a crap anyway? Atheism and agnosticism should not be widely promoted because it's just annoying to those who don't want to admit it. Same goes for the other way around though. That's why I'm an agnostic, anything that has to do with atheism or any religion just cause conflict and at the end of the day all that matters is the personal belief.

Centrists don't get enough publicity. the public is always dissatisfied with whoever gets picked. They're either too conservative or too liberal. With us centrists we just want everybody to be happy. Centrists compromise! If we all just met half way, I think we'd all be satisfied (to a degree).

Originally posted by thellama73 As a libertarian, I believe that what the constitution actually says - that congress shall enact no law respecting an establishment of religion or abridging the free exercise thereof - is extremely important. What I don't think is important is protecting people from even witnessing any evidence that some people are believers in the public sphere. Then again, I think there should be no public sphere, so make of that what you will. P.S. The Bible should absolutely be taught in school, not as the inerrant word of God, but as the single most historically important document in the Western world. No one can claim to have a complete, or even decent, education, who has not studied it.

^^^^ you are totally wrong. Centrists have no principles, no convictions and no solutions. They think that the center must be correct simply because it is the center. They are those who unhelpfully suggest that, in a debate whether to build a bridge or not to build a bridge, we should build half a bridge and then everybody will be happy!

Compromise is not a good thing in and of itself. Between those who want more government and those who want less government, there is no compromise. Either one side wins or the other does.

You say you just want everybody to be happy as if others don't. Of course liberals want everyone to be happy and of course conservatives want everyone to be happy. They just have different ideas about how to achieve this.


Edited by thellama73 - July 18 2012 at 23:32

Originally posted by stonebeard Not all is equal when public schools curriculum, public funds, and holy wars are on the line. As a libertarian surely you would recognize the dangers of the intermingling of church and state.

That's what I was trying to say.

Originally posted by stonebeard I believe in a plurality of religions and beliefs, but I do believe completely in secularism being one of the primary foundations and guideposts of education and public policy, so it's worth advocating.

Atheism doesn't exactly equal secularism, oftentimes it behaves like a religion all it's own.