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^ That's the beauty of this album and Neal Peart's lyrics......maybe we need to wait for the book to understand better . But right now I am completely engulfed in this album and its song structure, performance, design and dare I say brilliance...to pay too much attention to the lyrical meanings.

dennismoore wrote:   And one more thing: Get a 5.1 system and play the RUSH 5.1 mixes of Fly By Night & Farewell to Kings & Signals.  Then play oh say, RUSH - Counterparts on the same exact system:  You will clearly observe all the things Zuma wrote about.... Overly tinny sound, no clarity of the instruments, compression that kills stereo imagery. Bad sounding digital guitar effects, etc....

I will be paying a CD shop a visit tomorrow to pick this one up.  I might hit the Barnes and Nobles first though to see if they have the Classic Rock Magazine version.

Contrary to some comments about the sound production of this album, I don't get it, rather hear it. I find the album mastering to be very well done. No compression like many, many other CDs of late.

Edited by Catcher10 - June 11 2012 at 15:45

Biff Tannen wrote: dennismoore wrote:   Get a 5.1 system and play the RUSH 5.1 mixes of Fly By Night & Farewell to Kings & Signals.  Then play oh say, RUSH - Counterparts on the same exact system:  You will clearly observe all the things Zuma wrote about.... Overly tinny sound, no clarity of the instruments, compression that kills stereo imagery. Bad sounding digital guitar effects, etc.... Okay, bad example, considering Counterparts sounds awesome.  Counterparts does not suffer from compression or loudness or anything that the albums since pretty much all have (especially Vapor Trails).   The new album is a bit too hot at times, and I wish was a bit less noisy during the most rocking parts (although not even close to as offensive as VT in that regard), but the music on it is so good that I can overlook that for the most part.

Mr. Biff:

You have perhaps the coolest name here on the forum...       "Hey McFly!!!!"....       

Just for clarity, I didn't include Clockwork Angels, as it hadn't existed as I wrote my post!  I was speaking of:

Counterparts (1993)
Test for Echo (1996)
Vapor Trails (2002)
Snakes & Arrows (2007)  (the best sounding of this bunch by far...)

After blasting Fly By Night & Farewell to Kings & Signals (new 5.1 DVD-Audio mix) I played tracks off the selected above RUSH records and I have yet to recover.  It was horrible, sonically speaking.  No they are not all equally over compressed, but they all sound like sh&%t compared to even Fly By Night.

Have you heard the new Fly By Night in 5.1?

I have been listening to it on repeat tonight - I got the fan pack - and its growing better every time. There are some tunes on here that will bear comparison with the best work they have ever done. One part of me says who would have guessed they could still be this good and the other part says how could you doubt them? And I agree with Catcher10 comment about production its rich!.

Catcher10 wrote: Contrary to some comments about the sound production of this album, I don't get it, rather hear it. I find the album mastering to be very well done. No compression like many, many other CDs of late. I have a pretty high end revealing system and any "bad" stuff I usually hear very quickly.......After about 10 listens so far I have yet to experience any listener fatigue.   So that being said.........THIS FRIGGIN ALBUM IS A MONSTER!!!!!!!

I sense fanboyism, and the excitement of the new album is clouding most of your perceptions. I'm guilty of it myself, so I understand. But I don't know if I should get this or not.

Catcher10 wrote: darkshade wrote: I sense fanboyism, and the excitement of the new album is clouding most of your perceptions. I'm guilty of it myself, so I understand. But I don't know if I should get this or not.   Read the review AtomicCrimsonRush posted. Its very detailed and gives you a good sense of the storyline....if that does not appeal to you then don't get it......That's what I usually do for bands I do not follow closely.

I skimmed through it, it's a big read. I guess I'll wait a little while and see how your feelings are once you guys have had the album for a little while.

Catcher10 wrote: . There is no negative to not releasing a 5.1 version.....Understand that I am 100% a 2-channel natural sound listener of music. I could never do 5.1 or 7.1 for music   Besides, I have 2 ears......a Left one and a Right one.

Oh dear and oh my, there is so much here that needs to be clarified..., but I know you are really diggin the new RUSH, so perhaps we can talk about the "illusion" of stereo and mixing in general some other time (after you come down from Cloud 9 vis-a-vis Clockwork Angels.)

Whatever you dig is your call, but stereo is not natural whatsoever.  Stereo is an illusion created to fit into a limited sonic space the multi-instrument music that became prevalent as technology allowed more complex multi-track recordings....  There is no such thing as a natural stereo sound source in nature.... to be continued if you are interested...