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Guillermo 
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Joined: November 28 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 814 |
 Posted: November 20 2007 at 12:51 |
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Well...I expected to read that "Adrian Belew left King Crimson to be a full time solo musician". For me, good news could be a Reunion of the original line-up, or a new line-up without Belew. So, I`m not interested to listen to this band with Belew. "More of the same".
 Edited by Guillermo - November 20 2007 at 12:52 |
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Avatar: Photo of Solar Eclipse, Mexico City, July 1991. A great experience to see. Maybe once in a lifetime.
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Vibrationbaby
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Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: November 20 2007 at 13:17 |
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ProgBagel
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Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
Posted: November 20 2007 at 14:02 |
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I agree PT's sound might of gotten stale if it wasn't for Gavin. I hope again he doesn't leave PT for this.
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ProgBagel
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Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
Posted: November 20 2007 at 14:03 |
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PT's new on the official website is also updated usually once a week...maybe today is the day we hear somethin from Wilson?
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Disconnect
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Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Syracuse, NY Status: Offline Points: 254 |
Posted: November 20 2007 at 15:20 |
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I know a lot of people favor the early PT with Maitland on drums.....but for me, PT's truly innovative stuff began in 2002 when Gavin joined. He is nearly as important to PT as Wilson in my opinion. He truly drives the band, both in studio and live. It would be a huge disappointment if he left PT for Crim. Crim is/was great, but let's be honest....Crim has not truly lived up to its name since 1974. The Crim lineups since 1974 are always an unstable experiment that teases you to the brink but never quite delivers on its full potential. |
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TalmLikeABalm
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Joined: August 25 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 53 |
Posted: November 20 2007 at 16:44 |
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This should be amazing.
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Vibrationbaby
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Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: November 20 2007 at 18:06 |
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It would appear that Mastelotto will be doing more electric percussion and Harrison more traditional drumming. Who knows what this is going to sound like.
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Man Overboard
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Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 01:13 |
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Gavin Harrison? Are you kidding me?
When I heard the rumor about Zoltan, I was ecstatic, as it seemed like an amazing and logical fit. I'd make the cross-country trip to Chicago to see that, but I may have to pass on this particular opportunity. And honestly, it breaks my proggy heart to hear some of you say that Gavin "could do better". King Crimson are the pinnacle that all should aspire to, and as mean-spirited as it may sound, it sort of makes sense that PT fans -would- underappreciate King Crimson. -sigh- |
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Harry Hood
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Joined: August 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1305 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 01:18 |
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Is this the best drummer Fripp could find? I'm dissappointed. KC have always been known for having more interesting drummers (Muir, Bruford, Mastelotto). I'm sure Fripp and the other guys will whip him into shape and teach him some tricks. Perhaps he's been holding back with the Tree and KC will reveal his true skills, but right now I kinda have my doubts.
I kinda hope Mastelotto stays in the band as well, but I also want him to stay in the Flower Kings.
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Harry Hood
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Joined: August 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1305 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 01:23 |
The original lineup with Greg Lake? You couldn't pay me to see them perform with that fat miserable old b*****d.
I think they've done their best work with Belew. Fripp knows what he's doing, he wouldn't be around as long as he has if Fripp didn't feel he was good enough. The new drummer isn't one I would have chosen, but I'm going to try to trust Fripp's judgement on this as well.
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Dick Heath
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Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12798 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 08:38 |
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I suspect most of the correspondents here are not aware of Gavin Harrision's excellent album released in the last two months, Drop, in collaboration with somebody calling himself 05ric:
Sid Smith's review: http://sidsmith.blogspot.com/2007/10/gavin-harrison-05ric-drop.html
nor the number of books Harrison has published on music/rhythm:
The presence of Robert Fripp on Drop and the polyrhythms conjured by Harrison, leave you in no doubt that Harrison can readily drop into KC
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 08:53 |
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^ I agree with Dick.
Drop is a superb album and GH's placement in KC is a no-brainer really.
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What?
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Visitor13
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VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 08:56 |
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Exactly. Harrison is a drummer's drummer, perfect for KC.
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Disconnect
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Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Syracuse, NY Status: Offline Points: 254 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 09:21 |
I have been a hardcore King Crimson fan for many, many years - long before I ever discovered Porcupine Tree. No one has more respect for Crim than I do. At the same time, however, I am not one of these lickspittle fanboys who salivates over every crumb that falls from Robert Fripp's plate.
I'll never question their power throughout their various 70s lineups, but no one can deny the spotiness of their early 80s work. Some great stuff, yes. But also some highly derivative material as well.
Their 90s work, while powerful at times, has also been somewhat of a disappointment. Their studio output has never achieved its full potential despite the quality of musicians involved.
KC will still blow you away live, no denying that. They are one of only 3 bands out there that I will pay money to see live. But talk of an upcoming studio recording makes me uncomfortable. To say "King Crimson are the pinnacle that all should aspire to" is a bit puzzling to me. The only 'pinnacle' Crim have been since 1974 is a pinnacle of underachievement. Edited by SuperHokie - November 21 2007 at 09:25 |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 10:39 |
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I`m presently listening to to this O5ric on the myspace site. While the music as a whole doesn`t exite me that much, I can see how the guy can fit in with Crimson. I`m not too crazy about Porcupine Tree, but then again I wasn`t too crazy about Mister Mister and Pat has turned out pretty well. I`m sure Bob has put him through the Crimson acid test. Sounds suspiciously like Fripp at times on guitar on that second track " Unsettled ". Sounds like a Chapman stick the other guy is playing
Edited by Vibrationbaby - November 21 2007 at 10:42 |
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StyLaZyn
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Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 11:12 |
Crossing my fingers that he doesn't leave the band, I suspect PT will take another hiatus so SW can work on other things. This might be the free time for KC to work with GH, or vice versa.
If this in fact marks the departure of GH from PT, it would be a tremendous loss to me. The drumming Harrison has provided since joining the band, I feel, can be matched by no other, in terms of creativity.
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Dick Heath
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Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12798 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:38 |
Unsettled, the first track on Drop and possibly the tune with the greatest range of dynamics, sounds like early 90's KC - less sure about the lyrics..............
According to Burning Shed Records website 05ric plays an "Extended Range Bass" (????): |
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Tony R
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:48 |
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Only a complete ignoramus could readily dismiss Gavin Harrison's talents. He is "the" happening drummer in rock music, recently took the "best Prog drummer" title in Modern Drummer (against far more famous drummers from far more famous bands) and has released a couple of instructional DVDs that are highly rated.
Here's an idiot's guide to Gavin's credentials: http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Gavin_Harrison.html |
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Tony R
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:50 |
Speaking personally: that's just about the most ignorant and silly post you've ever made and that's saying something. I suspect it was only made to have an effect, which makes it borderline trolling. Grow up. |
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rushfan4
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 65937 |
Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:51 |
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I think that an admin should contact Tony R about his name calling.
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