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SENOGUL INTERVIEW by Assaf and Erik Erik: A few years ago I was surfing on The Spanish Progressive Rock page and stumbled upon interesting words about the new Spanish progressive rock band Senogul. I decided to order their first CD entitled Transitos and soon I was blown away by their wonderful, very varied and adventurous sound. I added Senogul to Prog Archives and since the release of their second eponymous CD (with new compositions and re-arranged versions of the songs on their first album) the band has received a lot of positive reactions and personally it is one of my favorite progrock album of new bands in the last five years so time for the members of new Spanish progrock band Senogul to tell their story and they were very willing to answer our questions. I am very glad that the very prolific fellow collaborator Avestin (aka Assaf) responded very positive to do this interview! Assaf:
I discovered Senogul last year after reading Erik's review of their first release Transitos and when I discovered this year that they released an album with the whole tracks of the first release plus some more, I did not hesitate for a second and immediately ordered it. Now, after much listening and enjoyment, this album has risen to be one of my favourite albums released this year and an all-time favourite as well. Fantastic musicianship, variety and melodies. You can read both Erik's and my reviews of the album to know more. This interview will be followed by posts of those reviews and more info and links about Senogul, but for now sit back and read the interview. I'd like to thank the members of Senogul for the time and efforts in answering all our questions and for their enthusiasm. Erik - Where does the story of Senogul begin?
Pedro: Eduardo and I met in the band of a friend, who called us to play in a single gig. Alex played drums, and he was the one who put all of us in touch. While rehearsing, we discovered the other's interest in prog rock, and we talked about starting a band. Eduardo called Pablo: I was playing in a metal band, we played covers and had a lot of fun on stage, we used to perform in disguise and even played vacuum cleaner solos. Once we played with another funny band, "El equipo Ah!". We exchanged phone numbers and never met again. until a few years later, when their drummer (Álex) phoned me asking me about playing in a prog-rock band. By then I was discovering progressive and jazz rock and was amazed by Rush, Iceberg, Hermeto Pascoal and Mahavishnu Orchestra, but I did not think anything serious may arise from Alex's proposal. But he insisted, so I went to rehearse with all of them. it was surrealistic. we played in Alex´s house, outdoors, he had a lot of dogs and they were stroking on us while we were playing.such a scene. We were delighted with that first encounter and started rehearsing regularly (every weekend) in my former metal band rehearse room. Pedro: We have discovered recently that this word has a meaning in turkish language, something like "happy son". Pedro: My musical evolution can be described in chronological order as it follows: Queen (I discovered them at the age of 14) - Nirvana - Pixies - Sonic Youth - King Crimson... from here it all turns a bit confusing, since I've been digging in the vaults of prog and "strange" music and there's too many favourite bands to put them down here. Nowadays, I'm more in the jazz/avant-garde vein. I listen to many bands like Claudia Quintet, Miriodor, Art Bears, and such. Pablo: I started playing electric bass around 1994 after listening to Black Sabbath. In the early 90s I just listened to metal music and Black Sabbath, Mercyful Fate and Iron Maiden, to name a few, were my favourite bands. This influenced the way I play the bass, since I mainly use a pick to play it. Little by little I opened to other styles, basically jazz rock, prog rock, folk music from different countries ( As I percussion player I would consider myself more passionate than academic. I play basically Brazilian percussion and other small percussion. In this sense, I feel deeply influenced by Nana Vasconcelos, Airto Moreira and Mongo Santamaría. In Senogul we do not deprive ourselves from anything, we can include any kind of sonority or structure in our compositions, as long as the result is consistent. Eva: I started to play drums in a heavy metal band at the age of eighteen. At that point, my musical backgrounds were Spanish pop/rock, Queen, Jimmy Hendrix, Deep Purple, The Police, Phil Collins .mainly rock and pop music. After that, I played with the band Norte & Soul (as My musical preferences are mainly traditional jazz (the early Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter, J.J. Johnson, Duke Ellington.), the "classical" jazz that is being made nowadays (Wynton Marsalis, James Carter, Dave Holland, Avishai Cohen, Jan Garbarek), some Cuban music (Paquito D´Rivera, Michel Camilo), rock music (Foo Fighters, John Mayer, Mika), funky music (Maceo Parker, Jamiroquai), and I have recently become specially interested in jungle, bass'n'drums and everything that involves computers and electronic stuff (Jo Jo Mayer; John Hollenbeck, Johnny Rabb). Since I started to play with Senogul, I was introduced to the world of prog (thanks to Eduardo, Pedro, Pablo and Edu: I started studying music at the age of six. Classical music -a lot of piano repertoire- was my only environment during many years. I remember that in 1992 I listened to Mike Oldfield and his Tubular Bells II and I inmediately began to get interested in other styles, mainly with a big instrumental component. Then I started to play with some musicians and just before working seriously with Senogul I was very engaged to celtic folk music, playing with an asturian combo. The music I usually listen more often is classical (specially orchestral and chamber works), jazz, contemporary instrumental, experimental/improvisation, traditional music (from all the world) and prog (I like to discover 70's underrated gems of the period!). But in general I try to listen to every style of music. Pablo: I reckon at the beginning I considered the band as just a pastime and could not be bothered to compose anything. Playing covers allowed us to improve as individual musicians as well as to be more consistent as a band. Then we were ready to start composing our own material. Before playing those covers together we had already listened to progressive music, but from a performer and obviously from a composer point of view, none of us was able to move freely in that style yet. Edu: As I think that day was really an inflection point in our career. After listening to the final mix we realised we had something interesting to show, we started believing in ourselves and our possibilities and it encouraged us all to work together to get a record deal. Edu: It was very important for us, because we could show our work to many people and also listening to our own recording helped us to improve and become better musicians. We also made a big distribution of it, contacting with many specialized webs (like Progarchives or La Caja De Musica) and the reviews were very positive (you can read some at our website). Also, there were some shops in EEUU and 6. Erik - What happened with Senogul between the release of the first and second album? Pablo: 'Transitos' is actually a self-produced demo-CD, since we never released it through a record company. After that recording we kept on composing new songs and replacing the old covers we played live by our new material. Such material was getting mature in time as the arrangements were constantly improved. The countdown for the recording of our first official release ('Senogul') had started. Between our demo-CD and 'Senogul' we played a couple of concerts, most of them in our region ( 7. Erik/Assaf - Can you tell something about the reactions on the second album in Pedro.- This album has been very well received in the prog community, both in Edu: Thanks. My principal keyboard is a Kurzweil PC1X, a stage piano, which provides me with great piano (acoustic and electric) sounds but also organs and monophonic moog like synths. I have also a Kawai X-55D keyboard as reinforcement (the one that sounded in "Transitos" recording). With the Kurzweil I can also edit my own sounds and nowadays I use new sounds that I have made myself by changing some parameters of the original ones. About my keyboard heroes, I like too many... but talking about progrock/fusion, I have three favorites: Tony Banks (and all his wide range of harmony treatment), Dave Stewart (his sounds and skills of improvisation) and Joe Zawinul (a perfect mixture of these two men in a modern jazz context). Edu: Particularly it's in a slower tempo, and I think the Spanish influences are more present in the new recording. There are also some details, like some drum syncopations, the presence of a minimoog like solo or the final guitar solo performed by Pedro.- It's a photograph of a roller-coaster in Pablo: Internet is nowadays one of the best media for Senogul. Most of our followers heard about us for the first time in internet, through our Myspace (www.myspace.com/senogul ) or reading reviews of our albums and concerts in webpages like those you mention. With little (and cheap) effort you can get good advertising on-line. Nowadays internet plays a decisive role for bands like us that move in the prog-rock circuit. I got to know many of my favourite bands in internet (like Return to Forever or Hermeto Pascoal) and ended up buying all their records. Eva: I think these networks and websites are the best way for expose our music apart from playing live. It´s quick, worldwide, cheap, and they give a lot of information for the audience, and also for the band, because this way we know how many people listen to our music, and what they think about it. Pablo: Triana was one of the first bands to fusion the emotion of flamenco with the power and solemnity of rock music and they made it in such simple way, easy to assimilate, that is why they were so commercially successful. It was a band with such a popular appeal and thanks to them many other andalusian rock bands appeared. Andalusian prog-rock bands are something genuine from our country (particularly from the south of Pablo: Any kind of fusion of rock with folk music, made with respect and good taste, is always a great achievement. To me, the fusion of different styles means a musical evolution and improvement. For example, such is the case of Gualberto and those bands you mentioned. 14. Erik - How about the current Spanish progrock; do you know bands like Unoma, Bijou, Kotebel and Neverness? If so, what are your impressions with those? Pedro.- We know some of this bands (Kotebel, Neverness, Amarok, Omni, October Equus, Insigne and more), and we find them very interesting. There are a lot of great ideas and beautiful music out there, but -as always- we find it difficult to know of this bands apart from some specialized web sites. It's a pity, but musical industry goes in a totally opposite direction to this kind of music. Imagination is not in fashion today. If we can talk about a "Progrock scene" here in Pablo: We are currently finishing the recording of our second CD, which, to be honest, the only thing it has in common with the first one is its "progressive mentality". We start from similar concepts but we develop them using a very different instrumentation. In this second effort we use less electric instruments (guitars, bass) and more acoustic ones, like sitar, sax, piano, kalimbas, gongs, congas. and a full percussive arsenal, as well as the voices are more present (as ritual, afro Cuban and work songs). The record will contain different musical landscapes, unfolded with a certain dynamism. It will be definitely a record to enjoy after listening to it several times. Pablo: Nevertheless, we also keep on composing in the same style of our first CD, in the wake of 'La verbena hermética'. We promise to keep on working hard in the new compositions and arrangements and to offer always high quality music with our typical dose of eclecticism. Pablo: Our self-titled CD is the result of several years of working all together, It is a record of free music made by free musicians who are constantly growing. It is the result of many musical interests, all of them linked together by a progressive mentality. I believe this music transmits different moods in a clear an intense way, from the most overwhelming euphoria to a profound melancholy. Any Yes, Rush, King Crimson, Hermeto Pascoal, Marillion, Santana, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Genesis, Zappa, Weather Report or Spanish progressive rock fan will not feel disappointed when listening to our music. Pedro.- It's rather difficult to describe our music, so I would suggest to visit our Myspace and listen to the songs there. If you like them, then you'll love the CD. ¿What about a ride in the rollercoaster? Eva: Just click on www.myspace.com/senogul right now and you won't regret it! It´s easy, fun and free. What's the worst thing that could happen to you? Pablo: I know the webpage since several years ago. thanks to Prog Archives I discovered records such as Bubu-Anabelas or Mutantes-Tudo foi feito pelo sol. I think it plays a very important role in prog music media all over the world. Personally, Prog Archives is one of the musical webpages that I check the most. long live Prog Archives! Pedro.- I visit Progarchives often. It's one of the sites I check out when I'm in front of the computer and I don't know what to do... because I enjoy very much diving inside it's tons on information about cool bands, many of them totally unknown for me... and it's very friendly to navigate by... Progarchives has made me discover a lot of great music, and I hope it will keep doing so. If my boss knew how much time I've spent there... uups, hope he's not reading this. Eva: For me, Prog Archives has been the Bible of progressive rock. I can't imagine how could I ever approach to this beautiful music without surfing countless hours on this resource. It has lots of information and it's organized in a very good way. It's very useful for those who are inexperienced about this kind of music, and also for the masters. Thank you so much! Edu: Progarchives is one of the most important references to get inmerse in the prog movement, to know artists, styles and albums. I like the structure very much and it was -and really is nowadays- very helpful to discover new names and ways of making music. Edited by avestin - November 24 2007 at 13:21 |
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SENOGUL
Biography:
Senogul is an instrumental band born in Asturias in 2002, thanks to the meeting of bass player Pablo Canalís, keyboard player Eduardo García Salueña, drummer Alex Valero "Danda" and guitar players Israel Sánchez and Pedro A. Menchaca. Although they had different musical backgrounds (Heavy Metal, Blues, Folk or Post-rock) they found a common ground related to styles such as progressive rock or jazz fusion, the so-called “Contemporary Instrumental Music”.
The initial repertoire of the band was made up basically of symphonic rock covers from the 70s (from bands such as Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, Crucis and ELP) and later they approached other bands more related to fusion (Return To Forever, Airto Moreira, Frank Zappa or Hermeto Pascoal). This led to the recording in 2003-2004 of the Demo CD Cosecha años 70 in “Dos Mundos” studio, headed by Mento Hevia (ex-keyboardist of Spanish progressive band Crack), with Mikhail Goldfarb as the sound engineer. Since then, Senogul focus in their own compositions and style, based in the instrumental fusion of different musical styles: rock, jazz, blues, baroque music, minimalism, electronic music or flamenco, including such compositions in their set-lists. In 2005 Senogul records and self-produces the mini CD entitled Tránsitos, in which the band included six of those new compositions played live in the studio. Such demo recording was widely spread, not only through several concerts in different concert halls in Asturias (Gijón, Oviedo, Navia) or nacional events (such as Lughnassad Festival, held in Tiermes –Soria- in 2005, together with other important asturian artists such as Dani García de la Cuesta, Skontra or Deua Dubra), but also through internet in specialised national and international websites. Meanwhile, Senogul kept composing new material showing new influences, with a freer, improvised character, tending to ethnic music and tone percussion. In 2006 the band focused in the recording of their first, self-titled, studio album, with Ángel Berdiales as the recording engineer and the collaboration of many renowned asturian musicians (such as multi-instrumentist Guzmán Argüello, who has played with Nuberu, Los Locos, Mü, Acullá or Edwin Moses). Such CD has been edited in May 2007 by Mylodon Records, Chilean record label specialised in progressive and avant-garde music. Senogul, now with Eva Díaz in drums replacing Álex Valero, is currently immersed in the presentation of their new CD in live concerts. The musical proposal of the band is linked in a way to those from asturian bands from the second half of the 70s, such as Crack, Asturcón, Nuberu and Berto Turulla. Reviews for Senogul's s/t album: SENOGUL — SenogulReview by avestin (Assaf Vestin)SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Zeuhl/RIO/Avant Team
Posted Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 23:01 EST | Permanent link SENOGUL — SenogulReview by erik neuteboom (erik neuteboom)SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Symphonic Prog Expert
This new CD contains 12 compositions including new versions of all five tracks from the debut album entitled Transitos. The music sounds on one hand very melodic and in general accessible and on the other hand varied and elaborate. The band has progressed on all levels: a better sound, very matured compositions, a more lush and varied keyboard sound, the guitar work is excellent and the interplay great. To get an impression: a classical sounding piano intro, soon blended with sensitive electric guitarplay and halfway a female choir, conga’s and dynamic drums in Dr. Gull I, a swinging piano, howling guitar and a jazzy guitar solo in the catchy Racionalidad, an intro with bagpipe, then varied, often swirling piano work and a wide range of instruments (from the fiery guitar and powerful saxophone to a strongly build-up Minimoog synthesizer with pitchbend) in the captivating La Verbena Hermetica, lots of variety and strong duo-guitarplay with an exciting blend of the guitar soli in La Maha Vishnuda, lots of brass and fiery guitar in the Alquin-like Agua, Fuego & Porexpan and dreamy featuring sensitive guitar and soaring keyboards in Travesia De Las Gaviotas. And in some tracks you can enjoy the sound of the flute traverse, variety rules! My highlights are the two compositions in which Senogul blends several styles and we can enjoy lots of shifting moods: first Tango Mango that sounds as a hybrid of tango, symphonic prog, avant-garde, classical and jazz delivering both synthesizer – and guitar soli as sparkling play on accordeon and harpsichord and second La Mulatta Electrica, loaded with tension and exciting musical ideas, from Al DiMeola-like symphonic jazzrock (fiery guitar and a propulsive rhythm-section) to Prog Andaluz (including palmas/handclapping and jaleos/cheerful shouts) with swinging piano and moving electric guitar runs, how captivating! In my opinion Senogul has made a very pleasant, alternating and captivating album that showcases the huge talents of this band, highly recommended! Posted Tuesday, August 14, 2007, 15:22 EST | Permanent link SENOGUL — SenogulReview by Cesar Inca (César Inca Mendoza Loyola)SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Symphonic Prog Specialist
Posted Sunday, August 19, 2007, 21:44 EST | Permanent link Guests ReviewsSENOGUL — SenogulReview by Almanzor (Francisco)
Posted Friday, November 23, 2007, 04:35 EST | Permanent link Edited by avestin - November 25 2007 at 12:41 |
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Listen to SENOGUL here:
http://www.myspace.com/senogul
Read about the band here
http://www.senogul.tk/
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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![]() Erik: you'd better play us some Senogul next Friday, if time allows. Edited by Angelo - November 25 2007 at 12:58 |
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Excellent job, you two! I recently got my hands on their critically acclaimed release, and I'll be sure to give this a more well-thought read when I have an idea of the music in point.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Thanks Angelo (of course Senogul will be in the CD player, it is
MY home and time is on MY side
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jimmy_row ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
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Great work Assaf & Erik, that was a treat to read
![]() It will be interesting to see how their music evolves, they seem to be a band determined to progress at all costs.
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Cesar Inca ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 4888 |
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Great band and a great record!! Arguably, "Senogul" is the best Spanish prog album of this year 2007.
Kind regards.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Thanks for the posts and up to 100 views
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Congratulations Erik and Avestin. Sucess to Senogul and Israel.
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Let the sunshine in
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Agreed - very good interview, fellows
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Great interview with a very good band.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Thanks fellow progheads
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Just come across this today, Very interesting and Well done guys!
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Better late than never, finally got to read this!
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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