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Poll Question: How much do you depend on God?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 19:26
Makes it easier to fake humbleness though, doesn't it ;)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 19:27
Originally posted by Zwerg Bart Zwerg Bart wrote:

Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:


Yeah, I agree. I believe God requires us to put forth our best efforts and do what we can before he steps in to help us out or do something for us. That's why he gave us brains, arms, legs, abilities, talents, etc- so we can use them.

Not to get all Nietzsche on you, but I never understood that argument... Isn't that just you doing something and giving God credit for it?

Well....it's giving what God gave you credit. So yes and no.

I'm happy I could clear that up. Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 20:38
Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:



Mu!



That is the best argument I have seen so far.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2007 at 08:29
Being an atheist, I'll go with the third option. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2007 at 16:21
 from the poll: I depend on God as much as on my own abilities
 
in other words
 
Help Yourself and God will help you
 
 
Thi atheist never liked the concept of a god (and especially the need to adore it), but this maxim makes sense. Helping yourself will make ypu believe in yourself, therefore it will be easier to help yourself. If you want to call it god's help, that's your problem....Tongue
 
 
nobody ever said those maxims were wrong, they were just adapted from one religion to another
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2007 at 18:25
I am on my own...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2007 at 16:10
Originally posted by Hamfari Hamfari wrote:

you all are God in disguise silly humans
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Lol, the first outspoken Cosmic- Humanist i've seen on Prog Archives. Clap. Not that I support that though... just pointing it out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2007 at 07:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2007 at 09:21
Originally posted by SoundsofSeasons SoundsofSeasons wrote:

Originally posted by Hamfari Hamfari wrote:

you all are God in disguise silly humans
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Lol, the first outspoken Cosmic- Humanist i've seen on Prog Archives. Clap. Not that I support that though... just pointing it out.


That sounds pretty reasonable to me. We are also all Buddhas.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 05:51
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How can I depend on someone who doesn't exist !!!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 22:56
Originally posted by ita_prog_fan ita_prog_fan wrote:

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How can I depend on someone who doesn't exist !!!
 
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Yes. How can you depend on yourself when in the first place you don't exist? Just kidding.Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2008 at 19:46
Depend on God? well yeah, i do depend a bit on John Petrucci for Guitar influence, but otherwise, i can cope with my own abilities.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2008 at 12:51
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by ita_prog_fan ita_prog_fan wrote:

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How can I depend on someone who doesn't exist !!!
 
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Yes. How can you depend on yourself when in the first place you don't exist? Just kidding.Wink
 
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That's what I call a mistery !!!
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2008 at 13:35
None of these categories fit into my personal view of a deity. We are all parts of the deity; every human being, every animal, every plant, every stone, every atom, every elementary particle are part of it. So I would have to say: There is no difference, since if I depend solely on myself I depend on the deity still.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2008 at 14:27
Well, I'm not so arrogant to pretend to know if someone exists or not.... let's just say that maybe, maybe not...
 
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If HE/SHE exists, probably we depend a little on Him... I men, at least to some degree! What kind of God would have nothing to do with His atrocious creation? .... again, who am I to know...
 
If He doesn't exist, well, we'll all on are own... Oh man and we're f**ked....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2008 at 22:33
Well, many many years ago, I was in serious problems, since I was very far from home with no money in a complicated hour of the night. I remember myself thinking "¿A little help?". A soft wind passed by my side, throwing some dust and leafs around. At least it solved the mistery...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2008 at 22:35
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Well, I'm not so arrogant to pretend to know if someone exists or not.... let's just say that maybe, maybe not...
 
So:
 
If HE/SHE exists, probably we depend a little on Him... I men, at least to some degree! What kind of God would have nothing to do with His atrocious creation? .... again, who am I to know...
 
If He doesn't exist, well, we'll all on are own... Oh man and we're f**ked....


I would very much prefer a female higher being nevertheless.
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