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    Posted: December 06 2007 at 13:10
 
 
                                          Hello fellow progheads.
 
This thread is a successor to my thread entitled 'Four Interesting Progressive Albums', my main motivation is that for me it is a perfect way to mention interesting progressive bands that are (still) not on Prog Archives, like I do in my Lesser And Unknown New Progrock Bands thread with new progrock bands.
 
      
         Here is Part One that contains the albums I reviewed in my previous thread:
 

Band: The Stranglers (UK)

Album: The Raven

Year:1979

The sound of this musical chameleon has often appealed to me, from the agressive and energetic early ‘Punk Plus Sound’ to the interesting progressive mid-era. In my opinion it started with the album The Raven that I bought in the LP version with the hologram cover.

The Stranglers were a band that played a lot in clubs and pubs, you can hear that in their sound: they have a raw energy and the interplay between the musicians is very strong. On this fourth studio album The Stranglers deliver 11 compositions in which the band showcases their huge talent as tune-smiths by delivering inventive arrangements, often cynical lyrics about our crazy world, some fine shifting moods’ and a varied keyboard sound: catchy beats with a propulsive bass sound, fluent Minimoog flights and strong interplay between guitar and keyboards in The Raven, Ice, Duchess and Genetix, a mellow atmosphere with tender piano in Don’t Bring Harry, a hypnotizing climate with spacey keyboards, distorted vocals and a tight drum beat in Meninblack and an ominous atmosphere with double bass play in the dark Dead Los Angeles. How ironical that a group that is often described as punk band made such a progressive album in the late Seventies when the symphonic rock dinosaurs were close to dead!

 

Band: Angel (USA)

Album: Helluvaband

Year: 1976

I discovered this band on the radio, I was listening to a rock show with progressive hardrock bands (between 1973 and 1976 my favorite category) and when I heard Angel I was blown away!

This is Angel their second effort, enjoy their powerful and exciting sound, loaded with biting guitar - and flashy Minimoog solos and topped by great vocals! Musically you can split this album into two sections. First straightforward R&R-inspired songs like Anyway You Want It, Dr. Ice, Pressure Point and Chicken Soup with excellent ‘head-to-tail’ work on guitar and keyboards and powerful vocals. And second a section with songs that sound as very interesting Heavo Prog like The Fortune, one of the most compelling Heavy Prog songs I have ever heard: first a wonderful keyboard intro featuring majestic choir-Mellotron waves, a soaring string-ensemble sound and slow synthesizer flights, then lots of shifting moods, from twanging acoustic guitar with melancholical vocals to bombastic with excellent singing, fiery guitar and an eruption with fat Minimoog flights, what a tension and dynamics! Other strong compositions are Feelings (a sparkling Grand piano intro, then a slow rhythm with a wonderful harmony between vocals, guitar and piano and in the end a howling electric guitar solo) and Mirrors (great propulsive guitar riff, like Led Zep’s Immigrant Song, with outstanding vocals and biting electric guitar). At one moment Angel sounds like a hardrock band, at other moments as very intereting Heavy Prog!

 

 
Band: Journey (USA)
Album: Journey

Year: 1974

I remember vividly how thrilled I was to read that former Santana members Gregg Rolie and Neil Schonn (just listen to Caravanserai) had founded a new band with drummer Aynsley Dunbar (ex-Zappa), this was a new ‘supergroup’ and the expectations were high.

For me Journey their eponymous debut album is still their best effort, here they sound as an exciting, very progressive blend of several styles, from rock and blues to jazzrock. Their trademark is the combination of the heavy guitar work by Neal Schonn (biting and howling with frequent use of the wah-wah pedal), the often furious drumming by Aynsley Dunbar and the very distinctive vocals with that melancholical undertone by Gregg Rolie, especially in tracks like Of A Lifetime (great build-up and grand finale), the alternating intrumental Topaz (from swinging Fender Rhodes piano to biting wah-wah guitar) and the final track Mystery Mountain (great interplay between organ, guitar and drums). The other four track are worth a listening session: In The Morning Day delivers halfway a spectacular break with echo-effects, swirling Hammond and blistering guitar, the intrumental Kohoutek has an ominous atmospehre, a strong build-up and a sensational Minimoog solo and In My Lonely Feeling/Conversations contains lush Hammond organ, a dynamic rhythm-section and biting, wah-wah drenched guitar, this is the typical early Journey sound!

 

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Band: Cozy Powell (UK)

Album: Over The Top

Year: 1979

In the late Seventies I was very much into jazzrock sounding music like JL Ponty, Al DiMeola, Jeff Beck and Colosseum II so it was no surprise that I stumbled upon Cozy Powell, on this first solo album many contributions are by musicians that have played with the aforementioned bands.

On Over The Top we can enjoy a super powerhouse rhythm-section featuring the late drummer Cozy Powell and ex-Cream bass player Jack Bruce, what a powerful and dynamic sound, especially on Theme I and El Sid! The keyboard sound is also very exciting, delivered by Max Middleton and Don Airey, from mellow Fender Rhodes electric piano and sparkling Grand piano to lots of flashy Minimoog flights, symptuous classical orchestrations and UK-like synthesizer sounds because of the use of the mighty Yamaha CS-80. Some songs sound similar to Colosseum II because of the interplay between their ex-members Don Airey and Gary Moore. It’s ‘blues time’ in The Loner (dedicated to Jeff Beck) with moving work on guitar and piano and a pitchbend-driven Minimoog solo in the end. But the most interesting and perhaps most progressive composition is the titletrack: it opens with a swinging rhythm and excellent, then varied and exciting work on keyboards and halfway Cozy starts a drum solo, soon accompanied by bombastic classical orchestrations (lots of woodwinds and brass) on the Yamaha and Moog synthesizer, the build-up and grand finale is great, I will remember Cozy Powell forever as the composer of this composition, close to the level of Classic Prog!

 

 



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                                      Part Two:
 

Band: ANGEL (USA)

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Year: 1975

- I had the idea that Angel their second album entitled Helluvaband (that I reviewed yesterday in this thread) was more progressive but today I listened to their eponymous debut LP and I am delighted this debut album! Keyboardplayer Greg Giuffria (who looks like a member of other USA band The New York Dolls) ownes an impressive array of vintage keyboards and he colours almost every of the eights songs very tastefully.

- The album starts with the hit single Mirrors, this was my introduction to the sound of Angel and I am still blown away by the huge tension between the mellow parts (with flute- and choir-Mellotron and twanging guitars) and the bombastic pieces (with fat Minimoog flights, fiery electric guitar runs and dynamic drums), topped by Frank Dimino his excellent vocals, what a wide range his voice has! Then my highlight of this album, the long composition Long Time (at about 7 minutes): the intro contains violin – and flute-Mellotron, blended with warm vocals, then a slow rhythm with an omnipresent Mellotron along harpsichord  and sensitive electric guitar, halfway interrupted by a powerful break with R&R guitar. Again the vocals lift the song to a higher level! Another wonderful song is the ballad Mariner with warm Grand piano play, emotional vocals, floods of beautiful Mellotron waves and halfway a swinging piano. The other five tracks are rock-oriented but less straightforward than on the second album, I notice more inventive arrangements with exciting vintage keyboards like bombastic Hammond organ, spectacular Minimoog flights and majestic Mellotron waves, especially the final song Angel (Theme) featuring a slow rhythm with all Mellotron sections (flute/violin/choir) and fat synthesizer runs, goose bumps!

This album deserves to be discovered by the fans of harder-edged prog like Heavy Prog!

 

Band: JOURNEY (USA)

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Title: Next

Year: 1977

- After their outstanding eponymous debut album, the successor Look Into The Future (1976) was a bit disappointing musical experience for me but Journey took revenge with their third album entitled Next. Remarkably are the bluesy overtones, this fits perfectly with Gregg Rolie his a bit melancholical vocals and Neal Schonn his moving guitarwork like in Spaceman (biting guitar outbursts), I Would Find You (howling guitar in the end) and the final song Karma (wah-wah guitar). But the great thing on Next is the development of early Journey their trademark: a slow rhythm and a bit sultry atmosphere that gradually becomes more bombastic, culminating in excellent interplay between Neal Schonn his powerful guitarplay and Aynsley Dunbar his furious drumming, often layered with sensational Minimoog flights or spectacular biting-guitar/flashy Minimoog duels like in People and the great instrumental track Nickel And Dime, how exciting! The keyboard work by Gregg Rolie is very tasteful, ranging from mellow Fender Rhodes electric piano and bombastic Hammond organ runs to spacey keyboards (in the Vangelis-like intro if I Would Find You) and those aforementioned spectacular Minimoog flights.

- After this strong third effort the line-up would change radically, as their sound did!

 
In the forthcoming weeks I intend to write about The Tubes (compilation 2-CD), The Stranglers (live album with Steve Hillage and Robert Fripp), David Bowie, Love, The Rolling Stones and Dutch bands Golden Earring and Aemen.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 15:46
Some interesting selections Erik.
 
There must be a case for Journey and Powell being added to the archives. In Journey's case, the albums which followed appear to be what precludes them for many people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:11
 
Thanks for your post Bob Thumbs%20Up As I said in my previous thread, my intention is not to recommend bands for inclusion but to focus on bands with interesting progressive
elements that have no or only a small chance to be added because M@X only want complete discographies. Nonetheless, in my opinion it would be great if M@X changes his band addition policy so we can enjoy interesting progressive ideas in music from bands like The Tubes, The Stranglers, Journey and even .. The Bee Gees, check out their first albums Thumbs%20Up Then you become the most interesting Internet source for progressive music!


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The whole discography idea should not preclude such bands of course, M@x also said that a band should be added if they made one prog album.
 
The Bees Gees is an interesting one, and would of course cause major debate.Shocked You're right about their early stuff though, especially the "Odessa" double concept album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:21
Bob, I didn't know that M@X has said that also 'one progrock album band' can be added (I am very glad about that) but, since surfing on the Forum for many years, I am sure that the opinions about "what is prog" wil vary among the collaborators Wacko ...
And about The Bee Gees, you know your 'classics' Bob Wink !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:24
Wow - Angel!!!! I taped a copy of one of their albums aeons ago (which I threw away together with my tape deck ages ago). Great band that I haven't heard in years....

Must look for them some time. Thanks for reminding me, Erik!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:27
 
                           I have the idea that this thread is coming to live, thanks
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By the way, I forgot to mention Jimi Hendrix Embarrassed ...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 00:59
Hey Erik, Yeah the absence of Hendrix as at least a prog related or proto prog is beyond me. If anyone is interested I will gladly list all the reasons why he is one of the main contributors to this genre. I still think it's a matter of getting beyond his "hits" to his good stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 06:26
Well Easy Money, write something about his best work here in this thread. I read a book about JImi in which was mentioned that he lost his (alcoholic) mother when he was 12, he was not allowed to visit the funeral from his father, these traumatic events were sublimated by treating his guitar as a substitute for the lost of his mother and from that time he was almost 24 hours a day busy with playing, making sounds, imitating sounds and you can also feel the anger and despair about the lost of his mother in his sound! I prefer Electric Ladyland, watched the docu DVD Classic Albums about this 2-LP a week ago, I was blown away by the adventurous and creative sound Thumbs%20Up 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 08:48
I didn't know The Bee Gees made a progressive album! Shocked
 
By the way, PA doesn't list probably more than 50% artists / bands of my prog collection. Is my collection so obscure?? I don't think so about myself.... Embarrassed 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 09:17
 
Well Honganji, I didn't know that The Bee Gees made prog until a few years ago. On my work one of the patients was an important member of the Dutch The Bee Gees fanclub. He showed me his collection that contained the entire discography, including lots of rarities. He had heard about my fascination for prog and let me listen to the Odessa album, I was very pleasantly surprised that the musicians I used to associate with that horrible disco and those irritating high-pitched vocal harmonies made prog Thumbs%20Up It's worth to check out that Odessa 2-LP:
 
 
 
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Featured a track from this album last night on the radioshow - and reminded myself it is one of the few 80's pop-rock records I can still listen - beside playing Vagabond sparked off more New Model Army requests for next weeks show(LOL). NMA know to be the agig-prop band in the Uk (sort of carrying on in the footsteps of the Edgar Broughton Band), also known for quoting Olivier Cromwell's 17th century republic lines as album or track titles, as with this album. Thunder & Consolation features guest electric  violinist Ed Alleyne Johnson, who the band spotted busking on the street - IMHO I don't think any of his subsequent  3 or 4 of solo album match his performance here.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 18:05
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

 
Well Honganji, I didn't know that The Bee Gees made prog until a few years ago. On my work one of the patients was an important member of the Dutch The Bee Gees fanclub. He showed me his collection that contained the entire discography, including lots of rarities. He had heard about my fascination for prog and let me listen to the Odessa album, I was very pleasantly surprised that the musicians I used to associate with that horrible disco and those irritating high-pitched vocal harmonies made prog Thumbs%20Up It's worth to check out that Odessa 2-LP:
 
 
 
Genre/Styles : Pop/Rock, Baroque Pop, Psychedelic Pop Approve
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks erik!
I could find it as Japanese CD but it seems not to include one track from original. Cry
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 18:09
Strange Honganji but I am sure you will find it on the Internet (E-Bay) quite easy Thumbs%20Up By the way, since that moment I heard Odessa I still have to buy it so when I receive my Christmas extra money I will buy it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 19:08
I know it'll be depending on everyone's perception on what's prog and not. There's an Argentinean band called Pescado Rabioso, leaded by superb composer Spinetta, who gained fame in PA through later bands such Invisible and Spinetta Jade. This band has very interesting stuff; some of it IMO fits in a prog label.

Another mention would be the folk-oriented Lindisfarne, although maybe remotely prog related. Their first album, Nicely Out of Tune, is particularly outstanding.

And, obviously, as I posted in the "Suggest New Bands" section, Brainbox is a solid candidate to be added. Check out their only album, self-titled. Eric should know perfectly what I'm talking about Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 20:26
Sircosick, a few months ago the Dutch TV broadcasted a Jan Akkerman docu, everybody hailed Jan Akkerman and there was also Brainbox footage featuring Jan and that special singer Kaz Luz. And Jan told about a major inspiration: Frank Zappa, that is a wonderful tribute, 14 years after Frank's tragical death!
 
I know Pescado Rabioso (Angry Fish Wink), a few years ago a friend borrowed me dozens of Argentine prog music that he got for bargain prices and Pescado Rabioso was among those bands, I will check out what I wrote about them.
 
And indeed, especially here on Prog Archives it's very subjective what can to be considered as prog, just look at the Forum discussions Wacko ...
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 20:52
I just checked my notes about Pescado Rabioso: they made three albums, their first and third are more bluesrock (like Wishbone Ash) but their second entitled Pescado 2 is more progressive in the vein of early Jane because of the frequent use of the Hammond organ and the compelling atmospheres. So no barriers for a Pescado Rabioso inclusion Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 08:29
I like this idea for a thread Erik. Angel are one of those bands that I always meant to get something by and never got round to it. I do have a couple of Giuffria albums on vinyl though.
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Thanks Paul, posts like yours are a boost for my motivation here on Prog Archvies Thumbs%20Up
 
 
 
 
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