Dream Theater vs. Psychotic Waltz

DT over all

crimhead wrote: I went with PW. It's like these days a lot of people like PT because it is cool to do so.

It's cool to like PT!?
Well, more likely than DT.

King Crimson776 wrote: ^^ See, but PW seems like show off too though, just that they aren't as talented as musicians.

Eh, it does to you but not to me. Instrumental talent doesn't figure in to my enjoyment of music in the least, so I would be more inclined to like something "more honest" than something that focused on instrumental talent. I'm drawn to talent in the arrangement area, as to me knowing what melodies convey the concept or emotions of a song FAR outweigh the ability to sweep or shred on guitar. All part of the "it just sounds better" argument, and that's the way my mind works.


Edited by Avantgardehead - January 18 2008 at 20:22

I like Psychotic Waltz because they have great songwriting, really good, subtle musicianship, wonderful vocals, and very interesting lyrics. They don't sound like non-stop show-off plus the albums actually flow and progress. Better melodies, too.

Norbert wrote: King Crimson776 wrote: Dream Theater of course. I just listened to PW, they're like a mediocre mix of Fates Warning and Watchtower. I don't see how anyone looking at it objectively could think PW are better in any way, musicianship or songwriting.   Well, many people consider Dream Theater as a mediocre mix of Metallica and Rush... I love IAW, Awake and ACOS, but these people are closer to the truth than you... IMHO of course.

And people can say that of DT, and not without reason. I'd think you could see that DT has more of their own sound than PW though. If you hear a DT song, you know it's DT, if you hear a PW song... it could be any one of those tech/"extreme" bands unless you're very familiar with them. DT is obviously more insane as well, which is pretty much the point of both bands, but also DT are, IMHO, better songwriters. I'm just saying I'm not hearing any greatness in PW. It's not very original or professional, IMHO, of course.

King Crimson776 wrote: Dream Theater of course. I just listened to PW, they're like a mediocre mix of Fates Warning and Watchtower. I don't see how anyone looking at it objectively could think PW are better in any way, musicianship or songwriting.

^ Right, because there's only one way to perceive, judge, and evaluate music. There's no way to objectively evaluate talent because talent is perceived subjectively. Some people like nonsensical speed, some like delicate, beautiful melodies, you get the picture. Another thing, anyone who evaluates talent is doing so in their own view which doesn't apply to anyone else. No one can define what is good in music.


Edited by Avantgardehead - January 18 2008 at 05:56

I chose number 4

I love both bands, actually. PW's two first are near-masterpieces, but DT's I&W and Awake releases are among Prog-Metal's finest albums. I'll vote DT for now, since PW's last two albums are much weaker than their two first.

Yorkie X wrote: when I listen to Psychotic Waltz I hear stoner metal more so than prog metal.

Ha, listen to High on Fire and see if Psychotic Waltz still sounds like "stoner metal".