A musician's message on the music world and piracy |
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Fight Club
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 572 |
Topic: A musician's message on the music world and piracy Posted: February 05 2008 at 00:21 |
Just though this was interesting to post in the PA. Originally found it on stmusic.org
"The artist also known as The Flashbulb has released his latest album in lossless quality (FLAC and V0 are now available with links below) to What.cd and his blog, and the message has spread through Digg. The album includes the following explanation in an html file:
Who knows if my little business plan here will work to fund new releases, but even failure is better than the crappy label/distributor/retailer system musicians have suffered from for over 50 years. We hope you enjoy the music as much as we do releasing it. Finally, if you plan on sharing this release, please include this file. The only reason it is here is to show the listener where he can support his favorite artists! Benn Jordan CEO - Alphabasic Records |
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asimplemistake
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 840 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 01:08 |
Great post |
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 20511 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 02:41 |
I basically agree with what he's saying. I'd like to recommend cdbaby.com once more:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37965 It has the same approach - most of the money you pay for the CD or download goes directly to the artists. |
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29625 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 07:19 |
Well, I've never illegally downloaded. I was more than happy to support Radiohead by paying to download their new one. It's been a sad fact for some time that musicians don't get a fair cut of the sales of their music. Glad to hear CD Baby is different. I'll certainly be giving them some more business. (Plus CD Baby loves you and all that care with which they handle your order)
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12798 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 09:31 |
Historical fact: too many rock (and jazz) musicians who appear to do well wrt sales, end up getting ripped off by the record companies and/or their agents. Also still a sad fact that copyright to many a band's performance on record is the property, for a significant time, of the record company. Have to ask the question: if a CD fully packaged is manufactured for under 50pence, why it is wholesale price around 10 quid and it can be sold in UK record stores for around 15 quid (and don't blame VAT)? One prog rock band leader told me that if they go completely independent and make and sell direct their own Cds, that they can survive and record the next album on annual sales of 5000 or 6000 - whilst a record label demands 50.000 units sold of each album or the the postive risk of being dropped by the label.
BTW has anybody got the financial breakdown of why to buy an MP3 track via Apple's site, cost 79p - what's that, over 50% profit for Apple?
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GoldenSpiral
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 11:02 |
I second (or third) the CDbaby.com recommendation.
it is a sad fact that most of the profit of a CD sale or "legal" download is not seen by the artist, if any at all. Markupof CD's is done almost entirely by the label, not by the store. My friend who was a buyer for National Record Mart in the US gave me the breakdown:
-CDs are manufactured for less than a dollar apiece.
-CDs are sold to record stores at about $11 or $12 apiece.
-Stores like best buy who might sell a CD for $9.99 are actually selling at a significant loss, banking on the idea that you'll also buy a stereo or a TV while in the store. This is what led to the downfall of specialty music stores like NRM and Tower. They couldn't compete with the sold-at-loss prices of big box stores.
-Copyrights are owned by the label, so profits are owned by the label.
-The only way to really support an artist is to buy a self-released album, whether a physical copy or download, or better yet by seeing them in concert.
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 20511 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 11:27 |
I'm sure that Apple won't give any detailed figures ... I can only recommend cdbaby.com once more ... their mp3s may be a bit pricey, but 91% of the revenue goes directly to the artists. |
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Fight Club
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 572 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 11:30 |
It's quite sad, but honestly, I don't care enough about supporting the artist to pay $15 for a CD, whether it be on amazon or directly from the artist.
I'm not going to lie, I download. A lot. But I also buy CD's. A lot. However, I usually buy them used off of eBay. Why? Because the price difference is just worth it. I got 4 used CD's off eBay this week for roughly $20, which wouldn't even be able to buy me 2 full-priced ones. It's a great deal even if my money isn't going directly to the artist and frankly I'd rather get 4 CD's for $20 than $60. Why do I buy CD's at all if I can just download? Mostly because I just want to have a collection that I can be proud of. I also want to be able to rip those CD's to my computer using whatever means I choose at whatever quality I choose. It makes me happier than just downloading a 160 kbps file that can never be changed. |
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 20511 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 11:42 |
^ The price for mp3s at Amazon.com is a lot lower ... typically between $5 and $10. And at cdbaby.com the downloads average at $10. I think it's a fair deal, given that they're really high quality.
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GoldenSpiral
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 12:00 |
I haven't really checked the download selection at Amazon yet, but I have heard that they recently went DRM-free, which, if they are as cheap as you say, could be a great leap forward in music.
I would never join a legal download service that required a membership (like Napster), with DRM that kills your files when your membership expires... or like Itunes, that is too expensive, has tons of DRM, low quality, and screws the artists.
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