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    Posted: May 16 2008 at 18:31
Heatwave and Certitudes. Still good albums though but not nearly as good as Triskaidekaphobie, Ceux du Dehors or Les Cycles de Thanatos.
 
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Present's two first equals some of the best RIO/Avant you'll ever hear. CDD and Uzed are beyond brilliant as well, try to listen to them as soon as possibleTongue
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2008 at 18:44
While there isn't a bad album on that list, I voted for Heatwave. The relative dominance of keyboards and guitars over the strings and woodwinds that are such an integral part of UZ's sound is the major weakness I think - at times it strays rather a long way from the chamber prog sound that UZ pioneered and later returned to. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2008 at 18:20
I quit five years ago, but I started again.  Heck, I quit every day, at least when I'm sleeping, which isn't much.

I don't have the UZ album, but I've been listening to UZ's myspace's streaming mp3s of Univers Zero Live CLICK

Bloody excellent!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2008 at 08:39
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

edit: apologies for brusqueness, I've been off the fags for a month



I've been off for over five years, and I'm still angry and hateful towards everyone.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2008 at 08:23
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

edit: apologies for brusqueness, I've been off the fags for a month



I've been off for over five years, and I'm still angry and hateful towards everyone.

The closest thing to a disappointment with any of these are the vocals on the otherwise solid album Certitudes. Most of the time I rather they weren't there. But my expectations weren't that high. When I tried the later Present releases (starting with Certitudes) I was positively surprised with all of them, actually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 21:23
I'm surprised Pnoom! also felt like i did when i first heard "Ceux DU Dehors". At the time i was going chronologically through their recordings and had heard that "Ceux Du Dehors" was the favourite UNIVERS ZERO album of quite a few people.I also maybe had too high expectations and felt it didn't measure up to "Herisie". As a matter of fact i liked the debut better than that one as well.It's still an excellent record.I also was blown away by VORTEX's recordings,especially the second one. I think "No 6" might be my least favourite PRESENT album with "Certitudes" and "High Infidelity" neck and neck for my number one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 21:17
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Foregoing any anxiety over riding on the coattails of others, the success of Cacho's Genesis' and Yes' "most disappointing albums" threads led to this.


.. A pitty I can't participate on yours That's unfair!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 21:16
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

I haven't really liked the last three UZ albums.

Lapirella tasted 1313 and declared, "Why, this is far too sour!" Then, she nibbled on Implosion and remarked that it seemed far too sweet. But when she came to sample UZed, her verdict was that it was *just right*.

Or something ;P ze point being zat UZ had something good going in the late '80s and I listen to that side of them much more than Heresie.


Shouldn't that be Lapilocks? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 21:13
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I'd say UZED. A rating above 4.50 and the album has no tension outside of dissonance for the sake of dissonance. Reminds me of Sleepytime Gorrila Museum melodies without distortion and on an organ.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 21:12
Although I have the two first Present albums and I dont really find them interesting, I must vote for Heresie... an album I seem not to "get", for I see no masterpiece what so ever, just boring unison repetetive dark tones for 50 min...Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 11:26
I'd say UZED. A rating above 4.50 and the album has no tension outside of dissonance for the sake of dissonance. Reminds me of Sleepytime Gorrila Museum melodies without distortion and on an organ.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 10:12
Indeed, there's not much in it, but I use the 5 star scale, so I'd say:

Vortex - 4.8
Les Cycles de Thanatos - 4.7

Rounded up on the P.A. scale, that makes them both fives... although didn't I say Vortex was 4/5 in my review?  I cannot remember!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 10:11

edit: apologies for brusqueness, I've been off the fags for a month



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 09:42
Originally posted by James James wrote:

I'm going to be a wee bit controversial... or maybe I'm not in retrospect... but I think Vortex's self-titled debut is  just a tiny bit better than Les Cycles de Thanatos
 
I agree, debut gets 9.5, Cycles gets 9.3
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 09:14
Originally posted by James James wrote:


This is the most successful poll ever, nobody has voted. LOL
 
That's because the poll's question is a phallacy: it takes for granted that any of these bands is capable of creating a dissapointing recording. One must listen to each one of the aforesaid recordings without too many expectations... only expecting to be challenged, driven to emotional tension, even scared...
A quest for the least favorite would have been more motivating for me, at least. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 09:03
I'm going to be a wee bit controversial... or maybe I'm not in retrospect... but I think Vortex's self-titled debut is  just a tiny bit better than Les Cycles de Thanatos, but then again, Hipopotalamus Negrus is just perfect in every way... but then so is Délicieuse Créature... it's a tough call!

I'll call them equal. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 08:44
Far from the worst, but my expectations were ridiculously high for Ceux du Dehors since I had heard it was better than Heresie and I absolutely loved Heresie.  I liked it (still do), but not nearly as much as Heresie.
 
 
Least disappointing (aka most exceeded expectations)... definitely the two by Vortex.  Both amazing albums.  Also, Heatwave, which is way better than it gets credit for.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 06:40
I guess i'm the first to vote."The Hard Quest" came out 13 years after the previous record and for me it was disappointing.Still a good one mind you but my least favourite.The only one i haven't heard  is "Rhythmix" but the rest on the list i have oh except "C.O.D. Performance" which i don't know if i'd call an official PRESENT recording or not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 00:27
I love the Japanese lass' violin playing on Where is Tamishii? it has to be said, it breathes new life into the band.

The only one I have of theirs still to listen to is their live album Pukapok, which I have on CD somewhere.

Again, I will get the rest of their albums officially in the future, especially PolyglotLe Feu du Tigre is excellent too, mind you.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 00:17
Volpapuk, another one I considered for this poll,  interesting.  I lent "Where is Tamashii?" to a friend who moved away more than a year ago, and never got it back. :(  It's okay, I've borrowed Cds from him that I forgot to return too (now wish I made a copy). Polyglot has been top of my most wanted list for months, but, well, a lot of expenses over the last months.  I do have the first two albums.

EDIT: to respond to your edit: Les Cycles was issued by Triton in 2003 on CD. I don't know how available it is now, or if it's still in print.


Edited by Logan - May 06 2008 at 00:29
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