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    Posted: July 11 2008 at 09:24
 
Why is their eleventh album called XII??!! Am I missing something?
 
1. Barclay James Harvest (1970)
2. Once Again (1971)
3. Barclay James Harvest and Other Short Stories (1971)
4. Baby James Harvest (1972)
5. Everyone Is Everybody Else (1974)
6. Barclay James Harvest Live (1974)
7. Time Honoured Ghosts (1975)
8. Octoberon (1976)
9. Gone to Earth (1977)
10. Live Tapes (1978)
11. XII (1978)
 
Is there another album that I don't know of or have they miscounted?

 
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they must have counted the compilation Early Morning Onwards, in their sums.


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The band website says:
 
"Pretty obvious, really, but it only works out as BJH's twelfth album if you ignore the Starline compilation Early Morning Onwards, which was deleted by then, and include live albums and EMI's The Best Of Barclay James Harvest. The title was also appropriate because the band members had been working together for twelve years. At one point, the working title was High, and the sleeve would have been based on Woolly's sunset photograph which eventually adorned his solo album, Męstoso. "
 
I tend to go with Dean's theory though. It's more likely they would count an album issued with their blessing (Early morning onwards) which mopped up material unavailable on other albums, than a "Best of" compilation released after they had left the record label.


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What always bugged me was that Peter Hammill's pH7 was his eight studio album.  

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The old Firesign Theater joke, yes they can count, but only to ten.
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Originally posted by Easy Livin

The band website says:
 
"Pretty obvious, really, but it only works out as BJH's twelfth album if you ignore the Starline compilation Early Morning Onwards, which was deleted by then, and include live albums and EMI's The Best Of Barclay James Harvest. The title was also appropriate because the band members had been working together for twelve years. At one point, the working title was High, and the sleeve would have been based on Woolly's sunset photograph which eventually adorned his solo album, Męstoso. "
 
I tend to go with Dean's theory though. It's more likely they would count an album issued with their blessing (Early morning onwards) which mopped up material unavailable on other albums, than a "Best of" compilation released after they had left the record label.
 
Ok, that explains it then. I got a bit confused there. Anyway, isn't it a bit strange to count live albums and compilations?
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Ok, that explains it then. I got a bit confused there. Anyway, isn't it a bit strange to count live albums and compilations?
It maybe now, and on this site, but back then it wasn't.


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I Love  a bit of BJH

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Originally posted by Hawkwise

I Love  a bit of BJH

 
 
First row: I have them all on remastered cd, I got Short Stories today actually Smile
Second row: Have them all except the compilation (but I think I have most of the tracks as bonus tracks)
Third row: I don't have the compilation (don't need it) nor the live album (should I get it?)
Forth row: Have them all
Fifth row: I have live tapes 2cd. Eyes of the Universe on mp3 only. Is the remaining one worth having?
Sixth row: Don't have them, are they any good?
 
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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky

Originally posted by Hawkwise

I Love  a bit of BJH

 
 
First row: I have them all on remastered cd, I got Short Stories today actually Smile
Second row: Have them all except the compilation (but I think I have most of the tracks as bonus tracks)
Third row: I don't have the compilation (don't need it) nor the live album (should I get it?)
Forth row: Have them all
Fifth row: I have live tapes 2cd. Eyes of the Universe on mp3 only. Is the remaining one worth having?
Sixth row: Don't have them, are they any good?
 




The Live album is very good , well i like it, to be honest only really listen to the  ones in the first 4 rows
the 80s albums are not really as good, but  then again  i have aversion  to most things in the 80s


oh forgot  these in the first photos
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The'' BERLIN concert for the people'' is quite good!
 
''Turn Of The Tides'', ''Ring Of Changes'' ''Victims Of Circumstances'' are their weakest ones, thanks mainly to poor songwriting from Les Holroyd who was trying hard to come up with synth-plastic driven ''hit'' songs.
Not that John Lees was very inspired either, but he at least tried to keep sounding traditional BJH, except the dreadly occasional ''hard rock'' tune.
 
Things got better with ''Face to Face'' -1987 and ''Welcome to the Show''-1990 .
Try the BJH with eyes of John Lees ''Nexus'' and other live albums recorded in the 2000's with Wooly back at home....back to the old BJH sound we lovedThumbs%20Up
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other live albums recorded in the 2000's with Wooly back at home....back to the old BJH sound we lovedThumbs%20Up
 
I have the recent live DVD Legacy. It is very good indeed!!
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The Live album is very good , well i like it, to be honest only really listen to the  ones in the first 4 rows
the 80s albums are not really as good, but  then again  i have aversion  to most things in the 80s


oh forgot  these in the first photos

 
Ok, thanks! Is this Wolly Wolstenholme album any good then?
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The Live album is very good , well i like it, to be honest only really listen to the  ones in the first 4 rows
the 80s albums are not really as good, but  then again  i have aversion  to most things in the 80s


oh forgot  these in the first photos

 
Ok, thanks! Is this Wolly Wolstenholme album any good then?


Yes it's veru nice album , better than some BJH later albums ,haven't played it in awhile  might just give it a spin later
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