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The Pessimist
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Topic: Steely Dan appreciation threadPosted: August 24 2008 at 15:11 |
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First off, i want to say thanks to the PA team for adding this fantastic band to the huge list of other bands on here. Being a long time SD fan, you can tell how happy this makes me
![]() But are there many other fans here on PA? I love them completely, i think their jazz-pop style is unmatched by anyone if i'm honest. What do you guys think? |
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 16:24 |
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I'm not sure that I concur with Steely Dan being added to ProgArchives, but I've been a huge Steely Dan fan since I was a kid and consider their body of work to be some of the best. The way they infused brilliant pop hooks with intricate jazz structures is absolutely brilliant. I still consider Bernard Purdie's shuffle groove on "Babylon Sisters" as one of my favorite drum patterns.
I do enjoy the newer material (2vsN; Everything Must Go), but they do pale when compared to Aja or The Royal Scam. Aja is probably my favorite, though. I also enjoy Fagan's solo material, but The Nightfly is EXCELLENT!!! Kamikiriad is good, too (especially "Tomorrow's Girl"). E |
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micky
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 20:12 |
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r making people happy is what we are in the business of hahhaha. great reviews so far guys...all of them... a special shout out to Rollie's review of Can't Buy a Thrill. I love objective reviews that speak to the heart of what reviews should be about... guiding those who are considering getting the album.. as well as describing the album. Great debut.. but for the progger SD newbie.. not the place to start if wondering why they are here. |
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micky
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 21:28 |
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holy sh*t... you beat me to this review Rollie
... for the betterment of the forum .... you NAILED this album with your review much better than I could have ever done. Was the first.. of a string of masterpieces for the progger to discover. King of the World.... wow... not much else to say.. which is why I suck at reviews. .and make my living here just spotlighting those who can hahhaa.
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darkshade
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Jazz Rock/Fusion Team Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Online Posts: 10086 |
Posted: August 25 2008 at 01:31 |
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yea Countdown to Ecstasy might be my favorite too!
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My Last.fm
Jazz-rock conspiracy? Zappa and Miles played at the same festivals in the summer of '69 right BEFORE Hot Rats AND Bitches Brew were recorded. |
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Hawkwise
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Joined: May 31 2008 Location: Ontairo Online Status: Offline Posts: 3755 |
Posted: August 25 2008 at 01:33 |
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Prog ??
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Seyo
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 07:46 |
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Not classic prog, but wonderful masic nonetheless! On the jazz-rock border definitely, but also with pop sensibility. "Countdown" is my favorite too, along with "Prezel", "Royal Scam" and "Aja"...
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"A Wonderful Wooden Reason"
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Syzygy
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 09:19 |
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Prett much what I was going to say. Aja is pretty much a perfect album, but everything up to Gaucho is well worth checking out.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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The Pessimist
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 10:21 |
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Not all the time, but they have a lot of prog moments, Aja is a perfect example. So is Rikki Don't Lose That Number. All in all though, it is great "progressive" music, and they have influenced a lot of prog bands. |
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Hawkwise
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 10:29 |
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Whats Next ? Little Feet ? I dont really get it how can have a band Like Steely Dan as Prog, But not Band like The Sensational Alex Harvey Band if they had been from North America and not Scotland shore they would been in the Archives by Now ,
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Greg W
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 16:40 |
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You know, IMO Chicago is a better example of an experimental jazz fusion band than Steely Dan ever was. At least their 1st couple lps anyways. What is this crazy need for any band with a horn section or keyboards to have to be placed in the once exalted, but now pop polluted Prog Archives.
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 17:04 |
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I do agree that Steely Dan don't belong; however, this is an APPRECIATION thread and maybe comments like these are better suited somewhere else. Just my opinion, though.
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Angelo
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 17:24 |
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Eric's got a point here, people. This is an appreciation thread - please go elsewhere (or start a separate thread) for dicussion on whether or not SD should be included in the archives. |
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Even prog is rooted in the blues, at some point...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 17:27 |
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Can't someone say they don't belong here and at the same time appreciate them?
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 18:49 |
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Pretty much like I did in the very beginning, perhaps?
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micky
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 19:14 |
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^ I don't see the problem with it or your post Eric... some people agree with it.. some don't. That is the way 99.9% of additions ALWAYS are. This isn't the thread for it... but since when has that ever stopped anyone hahahhah. Anyway... starting my first review this evening.. but was a long day... and probably going to shut the machine from hell off shortly and enjoy a baseball game and a Sam Adams...
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micky
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 19:39 |
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thinking on Rollie's review last night... he nailed King of the World.. .there is something about that song .. and this visual component to it.. is pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiRIE2irAgc you have to forgive the numb-nut for getting the album wrong.. but LOVE the montage with the song. "Any man left on the Rio Grande is the King of the World as far as I know" - possibly the best post-nuclear apocalypse movie never made hahhaha..yeah.. he's forgiven... priceless... enjoy SD fans... |
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Atavachron
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 19:51 |
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hey, that tune is PROG ! I'd never heard this one, no wonder some of our specialists were so adamant about them.. it's not someone getting their favorite pet band in, it is a band who did Prog easily overshadowed by Yes, Tull and the brief prog/media storm, and is another example of a glorious Progressive Era that opened up a whole new world to rock and popular musicians ..great Michael, keep that link in your holster
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micky
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Posted: August 25 2008 at 19:56 |
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![]() not the place for a rant... but I've made my feelings clear on judging by tags and labels I guess hahhaha.. and not listening to the f**king music and understanding WHERE.. and WHY they were added. Some may not agree, and I respect that. but at least they might see the logic of it and decide to listen... to more than a greatest hits CD. Again.. the bio says it all.... you only have to read it. . |
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Dr. Occulator
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Joined: March 04 2006 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 537 |
Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:19 |
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Kudos to you Micky! This may seem pretty pedestrian to some but my view is if someone has the artistic sensibilities that enable them to enjoy progressive rock than it only seems logical that they will enjoy the phenomenal music of the Dan to the same degree. |
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