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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 13:42
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Univers Zero. *runs from Koenji fans*


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It's clear why

UZ => bassoon
Koenji => no bassoon


Edited by NaturalScience - October 12 2008 at 13:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 13:44
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Univers Zero. *runs from Koenji fans*


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It's clear why

UZ => bassoon
Koenji => no bassoon


Hmm... good point.

Koenjihyakkei would be even more epic with bassoon. Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 13:50
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Univers Zero. *runs from Koenji fans*


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It's clear why

UZ => bassoon
Koenji => no bassoon

Yep!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 13:54
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:


This is a classic poll, really, because one band is like the ultimate in "Wahey!  FUN!  Woo!  Giggles!" and the other is all like "This will hurt but if you are patient you will come to enjoy it..." Evil%20Smile Wink!

How on earth does one choose?!

RIO/Zeuhl fans want's it to hurt before enjoying it.

Only where music is concerned! LOL  (Well, I can't speak for you, of course... Tongue)


That comment made me look a little perverted I guess, but It was mainly based on the the poll result so far (FUN = 4, Hurt = 11).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 13:58
Another tough call. I voted for UZ, mainly because they have released so much brilliant music over the last 30 years and they're still going strong.
 
Yoshida is a true master drummer and composer, definitely on a par with Daniel Denis, but Koenjihyakkei have only released 4 albums to date (all of excellent and Angherr Shisspa is breathtaking, but even so...).
 
Maybe in another 10 years things will be different, but at the moment UZ win on the grounds of sheer quantity and longevity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:14
Koenji, just.
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:29
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

 
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

"...really active edge..." - I completely get what you mean.  There's just so much going on all at once, like this ridiculously complicated onslaught of incident, and stuff is happening almost before you can gauge what's going on...  I LOVE that in music. Thumbs%20Up

Yeah, it's almost like Koenji is full of people who should be locked up in insane asylums or are addicted to caffeine because the music is so in your face every second. LOL


And yes, you are evil. LOL

Don't forgot my evil red sock of doom! Evil%20Smile

LOL


Chosen entirely randomly...?  Like, out of a hat or something, or just off the top of your head?!

What I did was I placed all 32 bands with random placement in a list (whichever came first off the top of my head) and then used a number randomizer to select who would face each other. For example, the first chosen were Mahavishnu and Marillion, so if Mahavishnu was placed in the 15th rank out of those and the randomizer chose 15, then they would be picked. Marillion was then picked out of the 31 remaining bands. I'd simply keep doing that from a smaller and smaller sample size until I eventually was left with two remaining contenders, whom we have yet to see.


Turned out pretty well! Big%20smile

It really did!  The randomness fell out very neatly!  Well, you and your red sock of doom (hah, 'Red Sock of Doom' should be the title of your next concept album... Cool) have done a great job. Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:35
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

 
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

RIO/Zeuhl fans want's it to hurt before enjoying it.

Only where music is concerned! LOL  (Well, I can't speak for you, of course... Tongue)

That comment made me look a little perverted I guess, but It was mainly based on the the poll result so far (FUN = 4, Hurt = 11).

Perverted...?  Well, I'm sure we're all wonderfully tolerant of alternative lifestyles around here...! LOL

You're quite right though, and now it's FUN = 5, Hurt = 13! Shocked Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:38
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

 
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

"...really active edge..." - I completely get what you mean.  There's just so much going on all at once, like this ridiculously complicated onslaught of incident, and stuff is happening almost before you can gauge what's going on...  I LOVE that in music. Thumbs%20Up

Yeah, it's almost like Koenji is full of people who should be locked up in insane asylums or are addicted to caffeine because the music is so in your face every second. LOL


And yes, you are evil. LOL

Don't forgot my evil red sock of doom! Evil%20Smile

LOL


Chosen entirely randomly...?  Like, out of a hat or something, or just off the top of your head?!

What I did was I placed all 32 bands with random placement in a list (whichever came first off the top of my head) and then used a number randomizer to select who would face each other. For example, the first chosen were Mahavishnu and Marillion, so if Mahavishnu was placed in the 15th rank out of those and the randomizer chose 15, then they would be picked. Marillion was then picked out of the 31 remaining bands. I'd simply keep doing that from a smaller and smaller sample size until I eventually was left with two remaining contenders, whom we have yet to see.


Turned out pretty well! Big%20smile

It really did!  The randomness fell out very neatly!  Well, you and your red sock of doom (hah, 'Red Sock of Doom' should be the title of your next concept album... Cool) have done a great job. Clap


Haha, that'd be awful. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:40
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Well, you and your red sock of doom (hah, 'Red Sock of Doom' should be the title of your next concept album... Cool) have done a great job. Clap

Haha, that'd be awful. LOL

Ok, so call it 'Mood fo Kcos Der' and pretend it means something in Kobaďan. Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:49
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Well, you and your red sock of doom (hah, 'Red Sock of Doom' should be the title of your next concept album... Cool) have done a great job. Clap

Haha, that'd be awful. LOL

Ok, so call it 'Mood fo Kcos Der' and pretend it means something in Kobaďan. Big%20smile


Sounds like a plan to me. I'll have to think of that for my next installment. The army of the evil red socks comes to Earth, destroys all of us humans and thereafter sets up an enormous sock empire. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:52
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Ok, so call it 'Mood fo Kcos Der' and pretend it means something in Kobaďan. Big%20smile

Sounds like a plan to me. I'll have to think of that for my next installment. The army of the evil red socks comes to Earth, destroys all of us humans and thereafter sets up an enormous sock empire. LOL

Ha, yeah, they're really gonna stamp on us. Embarrassed LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 23:13
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Univers Zero. *runs from Koenji fans*


CryCryCryCry

A fellow sockian has betrayed me! Ouch


It's clear why

UZ => bassoon
Koenji => no bassoon


Hmm... good point.

Koenjihyakkei would be even more epic with bassoon. Shocked
 
Quoted for truth of epicness.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 00:06
This is almost impossible.

However, I have yet to hear all of Univers Zéro's albums.  I have heard all of Koenjihyakkei's.

I love chamber prog and UZ are top of the pile.
I love zeuhl and Magma are top of the pile.

However, Koenjihyakkei just get the vote... every single album I've heard by them is fantastic and each one sounds different.  Angherr Shisspa is their best though.

Perhaps when I have heard some of Univers Zéro's later albums, my vote will change.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 02:06
Univers Zero, easily!
 
This band have released so much brilliant music, particulary Heresie and Ceux du Dehors, two of my favorite albums ever. I really dig Koenjihyakkei as well though..
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 04:59
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Univers Zero. *runs from Koenji fans*


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A fellow sockian has betrayed me! Ouch


Dahlia=so mean to Alex.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 07:02
Originally posted by James James wrote:

This is almost impossible.

However, I have yet to hear all of Univers Zéro's albums.  I have heard all of Koenjihyakkei's.

I love chamber prog and UZ are top of the pile.
I love zeuhl and Magma are top of the pile.

However, Koenjihyakkei just get the vote... every single album I've heard by them is fantastic and each one sounds different.  Angherr Shisspa is their best though.

Perhaps when I have heard some of Univers Zéro's later albums, my vote will change.


GO JAMES! WE NEED MORE KOENJI VOTES! Big%20smile

(Especially since they're whom I had winning Tongue)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 07:03
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Univers Zero. *runs from Koenji fans*


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A fellow sockian has betrayed me! Ouch


Dahlia=so mean to Alex.


Indeed. Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 13:54
i voted for FUN! 
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