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Fish not H
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Topic: Metallica ?Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:10 |
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I'm not feeling good about this "choice" to add Metallica but maybe I`m wrong about things, well lets see your point of view and see what the poll outcome suggests.
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tszirmay
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:17 |
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Perhaps in the very early days but Metal already has a castle with moats and towers, can prog not have theirs?
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:19 |
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3rd option for me, but I still respect all the time and effort that is put into making these decisions and maintaining the site. I won't complain at all; I'll just stick to my opinion. It doesn't affect anything else for me.
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Lota
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:25 |
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Hell no!!!!
I like Metallica but ain't prog... no way
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:36 |
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Wow. Just....wow. Metallica most CERTAINLY had a major influence on prog metal bands, Dream Theater and Fates Warning for starters. They helped to create speed and thrash metal. In essence, their first 4 albums not only pushed new boundaries in heavy metal and opened new doors, they helped shape prog metal, even though they aren't and never where a prog metal band. Granted Metallica had the 90s and 00s happen to them....and St. Anger
, but to say that adding them to the Prog Related section was a bad mistake couldn't be more wrong. An absolutely resounding GREAT ADDITION to the Prog Related section from me!Although maybe it's all because so many people like to piss on metal/prog metal on this site.....(alright, that little part's mostly a rant, but still, it's often true). |
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Logan
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:40 |
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I'm indifferent to be honest, but note that it was added to Prog Related (as was noted above), not Prog Metal, let alone "a real Prog category" (little joke). ;)
And for those who doubt its prog metal relation ;):
2003 Master Of Puppets 1.76 (25 ratings) I'm fine with it in Prog [Metal] Related (and can understand the reasoning). I wouldn't really mind if it was in Prog Metal. Edited by Logan - October 13 2008 at 23:42 |
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Yorkie X
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:40 |
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^^ prog metal gets a very good go on this site that I believe.
Edited by Yorkie X - October 13 2008 at 23:41 |
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:41 |
Then how the hell does Love Beach almost beat Scenes From a Memory in a poll? If you don't believe me look it up, I made the poll!![]() |
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Yorkie X
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:44 |
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^^ we prog fans must have twisted senses of humor sometimes
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:45 |
I think that's the only logical explanation. ![]() |
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Sckxyss
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:46 |
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I'm indifferent.. I don't really see the point of having them here, but they're doing no harm. I guess it's good for consistency's sake, since they added Iron Maiden and others awhile back. For anyone fuming over their addition, remember they're in prog-RELATED. No one's claiming they're a prog band. |
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Yorkie X
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:49 |
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Question is when we have collaborators turning away true prog metal bands like Elegy to be on this site it makes little sense that a band like Metallica is accepted ... all but for one reason (a draw card)
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:55 |
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Well i'm a huge metal fan, but Metallica i can live without.Never been a fan. Bring Katatonia back !!
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Drew
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:04 |
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Where do we draw the line?
LAST CHOICE
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:09 |
Well if "a TROO prog metal band" gets turned away, it's safe to say the progressiveness of the band is questionable, don't you think? I've never heard Elegy, nor is this a bash against them (whether a metal band is prog or not, doesn't bother me, they can still be a great metal band) but I guess you have to ask the PM team as what it was lacking rather than what it had going for it for inclusion. |
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:23 |
Same here. I have a relatively open definition of prog but Metallica is just way too far. They have no place here. |
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butts, lol
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:23 |
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another bold, well-thought and correct addition, just like the Beatles, just like Maiden.. bravo !
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:31 |
My thoughts exactly. Metallica overall might not have been prog in itself, but they demonstrated what MikeEnRegalia refers to as "prog ideals/approach", in that it really progressed a genre and perhaps music overall without really being prog itself. And of course, the same can be said for Iron Maiden, The Beatles, Steve Vai et al. |
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Yorkie X
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:38 |
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^^ ABBA next ? after all Benny was a pretty good piano player
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:39 |
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^Lol wut?
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