John Zorn vs. Toby Driver |
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Logan
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Topic: John Zorn vs. Toby Driver Posted: October 30 2008 at 16:19 |
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horsewithteeth11
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 16:22 | ||||||||||||
I really need to hear more material from both of them. I have all of Kayo Dot's material but I've only listened to Choirs and the only Zorn I have is Naked City. No vote from me.
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explodingjosh
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 10 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 507 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 16:28 | ||||||||||||
The answer to this poll is "AAAALLALAAARRRRAHGGAHAHHHAAALLLLLAAIIIIIIIIIIIAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Visitor13
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 16:28 | ||||||||||||
Hmm.
Zorn has 43874598745 albums out, Driver has what, eight? I guess it's probably Zorn, but mostly because of his early output. If anyone here thinks his music is crazy now, you should listen to the early '80s stuff. Driver seems to have better focus, though. Zorn does too many things at once, and it shows in his music. |
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Astrodomine
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 06 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 182 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 16:31 | ||||||||||||
I'm a big John Zorn fan so my vote goes to him!
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ProgBagel
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 16:58 | ||||||||||||
Aw hell no. Zorn.
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AlexUC
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2007 Location: Noveria Status: Offline Points: 392 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 17:13 | ||||||||||||
You did it Greg!! I knew you will after reading your previous comments... Well, you really strike me, I need to think it a little bit more... Coming back later
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Logan
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Posted: October 30 2008 at 17:18 | ||||||||||||
I thought it could be fun ongoing contest even. Like others, I voted for Zorn, I might make this a series of "innovative" battles of artists, similar to The Battle of Stardom polls, and then have a massive showdown. My next one will involve Miles Davis).
Results thus far: MAGMA's Vander or DEATH's Shuldiner?
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Anderson III
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 25 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 708 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 17:52 | ||||||||||||
If Miles Davis doesn't win the next battle I might just have to leave PA for good.
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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
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Logan
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Posted: October 30 2008 at 18:36 | ||||||||||||
Better start packing, I'm thinking about putting him up against Neal Morse.
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Anderson III
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 25 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 708 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 18:57 | ||||||||||||
Really? Then scratch the "might just" from my previous post.
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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
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Sckxyss
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 05 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 19:08 | ||||||||||||
I like Choirs of the Eye more than anything by Zorn, but Zorn wins out of shear volume of great material.
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AlexUC
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2007 Location: Noveria Status: Offline Points: 392 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 19:08 | ||||||||||||
I feel strange being the fist one voting by Driver at 10-0. Very difficult to me (like choosing between Yoshi and Vander) but seeing Driver very lonely here, I'll give him a drop... I love the Zorn material I have (oh, Six Litanies is awesome) but MotW and KD are my real thing
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Logan
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Posted: October 30 2008 at 19:14 | ||||||||||||
Nico, I'd probably ask you for a lift if Miles Davis lost. I could put him up against Frank Zappa, but I'd rather save Zappa for later and put Miles Davis up against Andy Tillison of The Tangent, or someone in Retro Prog.
Edited by Logan - October 30 2008 at 19:15 |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15783 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 23:27 | ||||||||||||
John Zorn now, probably Toby Driver 10 years from now.
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GhostWorks
Forum Groupie Joined: February 06 2008 Status: Offline Points: 55 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 23:42 | ||||||||||||
Well.
I didn't vote. Zorn is a poncey douchebag of the highest order, musically and personally (and for any who disagree, I'll ask now - how many of you have met the man and/or seen him live - empirical data is the best bellwether) ...and I've never heard of Driver. So my vote would purely be protest. |
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BroSpence
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 05 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2614 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 23:45 | ||||||||||||
Zorn by far
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Rocktopus
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
Posted: October 31 2008 at 07:07 | ||||||||||||
I'm glad I don't have to take take his personality into consideration. Musically he ain't no douchebag. There's some albums by him I really treasure: Mysterium and Magick are both stunning. I also love many of of the albums from his Book of Angels project: Masada String Trio's Azazel, Secret Chiefs 3 Xaphan, Bar Kokhba Lucifer etc... Toby Driver is a lot younger and gets better and better, so although there's more albums I love by Zorn's 1000 releases, I won't choose. |
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: November 01 2008 at 00:34 | ||||||||||||
As much as I like Kayo Dot (MOTW I can't seem to get into), Masada alone blows it away, not even counting everything else he's done.
Apparently Zorn rarely talks to the media because he gets annoyed when they emphasize his anti-semitism card. And anyone in his position would be a little egotistical.
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el böthy
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 13:39 | ||||||||||||
I need to listen to more Zorn... but from what I have heard from him I think I like Driver more
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