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kelisianna 
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:04 |
I never see Tool or Nine Inch Nails mentioned around here. I think their music would fall into a loose definition of Progressive Rock. 
What do you'all think? 
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Yorkie X
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:09 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:17 |
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Err.... Tool is in the bands list.
NIN just isn't a prog band anyway.
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Lionheart
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:25 |
I think most of the stuff NIN has produced, at it's "most proggy", would fall into "conceptual pop/rock with industrial tendencies".
I can't comment on Tool. I don't have any of their records.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:26 |
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"conceptual pop/rock"
Sorry, but have you actually heard any NIN before?
A lot of their stuff is so far removed from pop it's not funny.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:29 |
 kelisianna wrote:
I never see Tool or Nine Inch Nails mentioned around here. I think their music would fall into a loose definition of Progressive Rock.
What do you'all think?
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Tool is one of the artists listed here. I'd put NIN in here, too, but I think they've been suggested before and rejected.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Lionheart
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:30 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
"conceptual pop/rock"
Sorry, but have you actually heard any NIN before?
A lot of their stuff is so far removed from pop it's not funny.
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Yes, because I have all of their records. It's an observation on the
structure of Trent Reznor's songwriting. Which, by the way, follows a
standard pop/rock format, regardless of what the instrumentation or production would lead you to believe.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:35 |
ALL their music follows a pop/rock format? 
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jimidom
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:38 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
"conceptual pop/rock"
Sorry, but have you actually heard any NIN before?
A lot of their stuff is so far removed from pop it's not funny.
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Agreed, but I don't think NIN is prog. In fact, I think industrial bands like Consolidated, Skinny Puppy, Severed Heads, Front 242, and of course Ministry to name a few, are all a bit more experimental than NIN, but even they aren't quite prog either.
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Lionheart
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 11:45 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
ALL their music follows a pop/rock format?
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Pretty much: Pretty Hate Machine - synth pop (with industrial tendencies) Broken - Rock (with industrial tendencies) Downward Spiral - Conceptual Rock (with the occasional odd time signature, industrial tendencies) The Fragile - Conceptual Rock (with the occasional odd time signature, industrial tendencies) With Teeth - Rock (with industrial tendencies) Year Zero - Pop/Rock (with industrial tendencies) Ghosts - *the one exception in the catalog* - Ambient Brian Eno knockoff The Slip - Rock (with industrial tendencies) Don't take this the wrong way - I do like NIN, or I wouldn't have these records. It just ain't prog, my friend!
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CPicard
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 12:42 |
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I will say the same thing as the majority: NIN is NOT progressive, even when Reznor plays oddly with his synthesizers. I mean, even Goldie and his one-hour track (I just don't remember the name of this disc) or Orb and his 40-minutes mastodon are closer to the concept of "progressive rock" than Reznor (yet, he's able to produce good melodies and intelligent metal).
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Zitro
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 14:31 |
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I'm just discovering them. I'm not sure if they fall on 'prog' (depends on how you define prog), but I feel it's silly to call it pop/rock. It's so far away from generic music, especially songs like "All The Love in The World", "Zero Sum" "Ripe", the "Ghost" album, and many songs in "Fragile".
Quite interesting music, 3 to 3.5 star material with my star rating preferences in progarchives.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 15:29 |
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Just be sure to use the right Tool when pounding in your Nine Inch Nails.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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npjnpj
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 07:24 |
In favour of NIN: They sound a lot more off-whack than a lot of other artists here, and that should count for something, surely?
(Off-whack as a sub criterium for Prog)
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The Pessimist
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 08:47 |
OK so we've established that Tool are here. Just type their name in the search bar and you'll find numerous threads on them in the forum also (you're new here though so it's excusable).
As for NIN? No dude, I personally wouldn't like to call them prog and I don't think they themselves would like to be labelled by that either. Mellow industrial metal, lets just leave it at that.
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 16:08 |
kelisianna wrote:
I never see Tool or Nine Inch Nails mentioned around here. I think their music would fall into a loose definition of Progressive Rock.
What do you'all think?
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If you've not seen Tool mentioned around here, you've not been paying attention.
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 10:30 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Just be sure to use the right Tool when pounding in your Nine Inch Nails.
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Mohaha.
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 20:51 |
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Nine Inch Nails have been added to Crossover.
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