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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 04:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 12:06
I don't really have a problem with them being added, but I fail to see how NIN is in any way prog.  I also agree that its very pop format.  Just because it's heavy doesn't mean its not pop, the verse chorus format is pretty evident in almost all Trent's songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 12:23
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

I don't really have a problem with them being added, but I fail to see how NIN is in any way prog.  I also agree that its very pop format.  Just because it's heavy doesn't mean its not pop, the verse chorus format is pretty evident in almost all Trent's songs.


And it's fortified with profanity. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 12:28
Yeah exactly.  I mean no offense to any fans, I used to listen to The Fragile a lot and thought it was good, it just never occurred to me to call it prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 12:39
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Yeah exactly.  I mean no offense to any fans, I used to listen to The Fragile a lot and thought it was good, it just never occurred to me to call it prog.

I dunno, if I like it and it's in my collection, it has to be prog. Tongue

I kind of get the feeling this won't sit right with a lot of people.


Edited by Slartibartfast - April 01 2010 at 12:40
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 19:13
Quite a shock to see them added.  Right or wrong, the barriers to entry keep getting lower.  Of course if this is an April Fools joke, I would have hoped for better.Sleepy


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 20:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 20:48
Personally, I think NIN would fit much better in the Prog Related category then in Crossover.  There may be progressive/experimental traits in their music, but I really wouldn't go so far as to include them in the progressive genre.  Not really a huge deal but I'm borderline OCD, so it kinda bugs me.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 21:18
Honestly, it seems the rules have overruled the rulemakers.

The criteria for Prog Related are now way too strict, channeling every and any band into Crossover Prog. I don't think that was the intention.

My advice: Change the odd critera for Prog Related. Keep Prog Related as an open category for bands and artists that should be included on a more or less emotional basis (generelly regarded), as seems to be the case with many suggestions. And channel the wildcards from Crossover to Related.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 02:59
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

Nine Inch Nails have been added to Crossover.
 
Did they change their musical orientation at some point ? I always heard about them as an industrial rock/metal band.
Who's next : oomph, rammstein, ministry ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 05:16
Personally I thought their later albums, which were used as arguments for their inclusion, presented the weakest arguments. The Fragile and The Downwards Spiral sold a rather skeptical me on this suggestion though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 11:30
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

 
I kind of get the feeling this won't sit right with a lot of people.

What else is new? LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 16:24
Although... why is say, Asia, or fricken Nightwish more prog than NIN? Because they are all "symphonic" sounding? At least NIN has progressive song structures occasionally. Although it is usually pop song structure (but again, so are Asia, Nightwish and many other bands on the site).

Anyway, I say, if we have a bunch of stupid Power Metal, why not NIN. The more the merrier! :P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 17:06
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:


Anyway, I say, if we have a bunch of  Power Metal, why not NIN. The more the merrier! :P


took the liberty of editting your quote... but agree 110% with the sentiment..


there is a LOT of stuff here I personally don't believe belong here...   lots that I believe that should be that has been rejected...


anyhow.. posted this in the collab zone ...   and dare anyone to find the fault in the logic... this site is a repository of all the differing views of prog.. and if one knows anything of prog.. you know there are as many of those as members we have here.



Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


it's like I said earlier....   why are people more upset at what is added...  rather than what isn't added.

if one doesn't agree.. or like the group...  so what.. who the hell are YOU.. really?   What about the people that DO think the group belongs... 


who is the site for....  them....the general membership and prog explorers..  or you(us)


Edited by micky - April 03 2010 at 17:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 22:09
I never thought I'd see them added, and I was unsure NIN is even a good addition. Nonetheless I am absolutely enthralled that they/he are here. The Downward Spiral and The Fragile are two albums I put on a pedestal and are two absolute favorites. I love pretty much anything else Trent makes, with The Slip probably being the only weak NIN album IMO.

I'll have to get in a review for The Downward Spiral soon. Perfection! Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 22:21
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Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

I never thought I'd see them added, and I was unsure NIN is even a good addition. Nonetheless I am absolutely enthralled that they/he are here. The Downward Spiral and The Fragile are two albums I put on a pedestal and are two absolute favorites. I love pretty much anything else Trent makes, with The Slip probably being the only weak NIN album IMO.

I'll have to get in a review for The Downward Spiral soon. Perfection! Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 23:14


So basically... Billy Idol for prog archives!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 04:40
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:



So basically... Billy Idol for prog archives!

There goes the neighborhood?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 07:19
It's been interesting to watch the site traffic as reported by Alexa after this addition though ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 17:39
Originally posted by Desoc Desoc wrote:

Honestly, it seems the rules have overruled the rulemakers.

The criteria for Prog Related are now way too strict, channeling every and any band into Crossover Prog. I don't think that was the intention.

My advice: Change the odd critera for Prog Related. Keep Prog Related as an open category for bands and artists that should be included on a more or less emotional basis (generelly regarded), as seems to be the case with many suggestions. And channel the wildcards from Crossover to Related.

I agree; the requirements for Prog Related are silly - specifically "Are widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community". Most of the 100% prog bands here haven't influenced the development of progressive rock (but rather derived from it), so how can we expect the Prog related ones to? Confused
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