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    Posted: November 14 2008 at 15:30
Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on their respective pages (or Youtube if the particular band has no online streaming).

Opeth's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1122
VDGG's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=343

As always, discussions are encouraged.

Recap:
Round 3
C1: Area v. Emerson, Lake and Palmer         (21-41)

C1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53258


Round 2
B1: Marillion v. Area       (32-35)
B2: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. Tangerine Dream    (37-25)
B3: Can v. Opeth      (31-34)
B4: Van der Graaf Generator v. Samla Mammas Manna    (47-12)
B5: Rush v. Kayo Dot            (46-20)
B6: Henry Cow v. Magma       (17-24)
B7: Le Orme v. Hawkwind       (27-9)
B8: Univers Zero v. Gentle Giant       (17-34)

B1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52648&PN=1
B2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52714
B3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52795
B4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52869
B5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52956&PN=1
B6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53056&PN=1
B7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53114&PN=1
B8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53181&PN=1


Round 1
A1:  Mahavishnu Orchestra v. Marillion      (24-28)
A2:  Gong v. Area    (18-19)
A3:  Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. The Flower Kings      (22-14)
A4:  The Residents v. Tangerine Dream    (12-15)
A5:  Can v. Dream Theater    (42-37)
A6:  Echolyn v. Opeth    (11-18)
A7:  Van der Graaf Generator v. The Mars Volta    (54-18)
A8:  Samla Mammas Manna v. Radiohead      (27-26)
A9:  Rush v. Tool    (55-21)
A10: Meshuggah v. Kayo Dot     (15-21)
A11: Henry Cow v. Amon Duul II      (17-12)
A12: Soft Machine v. Magma      (23-25)
A13: Ayreon v. Le Orme      (26-29)
A14: Ozric Tentacles v. Hawkwind         (21-27)
A15: Koenjihyakkei v. Univers Zero       (10-17)
A16: Gentle Giant v. Camel        (41-29)

A1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2
A2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1
A3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1
A4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1
A5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1
A6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778
A7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855
A8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1
A9: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52011
A10: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52091
A11: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1
A12: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52246
A13: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52336
A14: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1
A15: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1
A16: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52571
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THE WORST CHOICE EVER THROWN IN FRONT OF ME.

Opeth, my favourite band at the moment vs VDGG, the band that helped shape my entire musical career.

Opeth, however, did the same as VDGG to me. So it's gonna have to be them, although I hate to do it Cry
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I haven't gotten into either band yet.  Sorry.
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Some two years ago I'd have had a major problem choosing. Today my choice is clearly Opeth. Unlike with VdGG, I haven't grown bored with Opeth. Lots of respect for VdGG though, a very talented bunch, it's just that the magic wore off.
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Down with Opeth! VDGG is 1,000,000x more interesting to me.
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I think I like Opeth's albums a bit more.  Bit of a tough call for me.
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Musically, I think that I prefer Opeth.  Vocally, I prefer Akerfeldt's clean voice to Hammill's quirky voice; but I prefer Hammill's quirky voice to Akerfeldt's Cookie Monster voice.  I've pretty much sat out all of the VDGGs and Opeths so far, so no reason to start making a choice now.  The next poll is going to lead to quite the bloodbath though.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Musically, I think that I prefer Opeth.  Vocally, I prefer Akerfeldt's clean voice to Hammill's quirky voice; but I prefer Hammill's quirky voice to Akerfeldt's Cookie Monster voice.  I've pretty much sat out all of the VDGGs and Opeths so far, so no reason to start making a choice now.  The next poll is going to lead to quite the bloodbath though.


I don't think so, Rush's going to take that one fairly easily, I'd imagine.
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Oy vey, Rush vs. Magma?! Better take cover...
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I think the VDGG guys will have a hard time here. I ve' heard "Still Life" and it was a very good album , just that growling vocals are not for me. However PH voice is also an adquired taste.

 
A band that has 2 records in the top 10 just can't lose this early.
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I'd vote for VdGG almost against any other band.

But in this case...

I'll vote for VdGG!

Still Life, Godbluff and Pawn Hearts are all some of my very favorite albums. Opeth are good but VdGG are the masterliness. Wink


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VDGG by a factor of lots.

I like Opeth, but they're simply not on the same level... not even close.

VDGG cut the second best album ever, and hold four of my top 11. They're also my favourite band ever.

Hammill is miles ahead of any other vocalist, and can express complex emotions in a way that pretty much noone else does. Their piano and guitar inclusions are extremely tasteful and evocative. Jaxon's done more for the sax than any member of Opeth has done for their instrument, as far as I can see; Banton's formidable, often classically-based and heavily customised organs... sometimes takes a while to get what he's doing in a particular song, but when you do, it's amazing. Guy Evans is no slouch either, though I can see why his beat-and-massive-fill style might not suit some people.

I can't understand a vote for Opeth, but that's because I'm a shameless VDGG fanboy, and someone who's generally more of a classic prog man.
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Opeth.

I just do not get VdGG. I can't stand Hamill's voice, there's virtually no decent guitar, no bass and the music is dark, and I hate dark. I do like Hugh Banton's keyboards, though.

Opeth are heavy and interesting, though the death metal growls take a bit of getting used to.
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Opeth.

I just do not get VdGG. I can't stand Hamill's voice, there's virtually no decent guitar, no bass and the music is dark, and I hate dark. I do like Hugh Banton's keyboards, though.

Opeth are heavy and interesting, though the death metal growls take a bit of getting used to.
 
I'd say that this sums up my feelings perfectly.  Well said Hercules!
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VDGG all the way! All take Peter Hammill's exceptional voice anyday over death growls. Opeth's vocals have improved greatly and once the growls go away completely I'll take them more seriously, because they make great music:)
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Oh crap... Opeth fanboys scare me


Go VdGG, some of the most emotional music put to tape, especially from Pawn Hearts to Still Life, three 5-star albums IMO.
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VdGG rfor me, though I like Opeth. VdGG are one of the pioneering classic prog bands though, and I can't go against that.
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Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Oh crap... Opeth fanboys scare me


Go VdGG, some of the most emotional music put to tape, especially from Pawn Hearts to Still Life, three 5-star albums IMO.

You haven't even come across one....until now.Wink
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Who knows though? Maybe one of these days I might come to actually understand what so many people see in VDGG. But for now, they really just don't fit my tastes, plus they're against my second favorite band. Although I am surprised that it isn't a bloodbath yet.
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Tough tough call

Opeth by a tiny margin
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