Music from The Elder

I read today that the hard rock band Kiss (you know the make up and fire guys) released a prog album called Music From the Elder, anyone here own it, or was it just a mislabeling of a slightly un-kiss  album during the days of prog ?

I bought it on LP back when I was a kid. I once heard Paul Stanley say of The Elder that it was a good album, just not a good KISS album.

It was unlike anything they had ever done before or since: a conceptual album with characters and dialogue (towards the end after "I", if memory serves). Pretty good tunes with "The Oath", Ace's "Dark Light" (complete with a dazzling guitar solo), "I" (which a little like "Shout It Out Loud" with Simmons and Stanley trading lead vocals and a monsterous chorus), and the instrumental "Escape From The Island" (I think that was the title).

There were some stinkers with "A World Without Heroes", but I thought it was a decent album. I haven't heard it in years. Like to listen to it again, though. I just remember huddling at my buddy's house for a sleepover to see their live appearance on the late night show Fridays. I think they did "The Oath" and "I".

I also think this was the first album with Eric Carr, who was a dramatic upgrade in drummers over Criss. Unfairly underrated and a true student of the drums. What a tragic loss when he died.

You've got me curious to hear this again. Like I said, it's probably been over 20 years since I've heard it.

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The first person to suggest Kiss be added to the archives will be hung, drawn, quartered, burned, hanged again, then fed to the dogs until they're really sorry.

Jim Garten wrote: The first person to suggest Kiss be added to the archives will be hung, drawn, quartered, burned, hanged again, then fed to the dogs until they're really sorry.

I think this was the best post I have ever read. Ever. No one can ever top this post.

I think i still have a "Kiss sucks" t-shirt somewhere from around 1978.Probably with my "Disco sucks" t-shirt from 1976.   Ahhh highschool....actually it sucked too.

Edited by sinkadotentree - December 04 2008 at 07:22

[/QUOTE]Originally posted by King By-Tor

I can only imagine.  I suggested Boston (for prog related) and nearly got my balls handed to me in a Dixie cup.  You would have thought I suggested T-Pain. 
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Edited by peskypesky - December 04 2008 at 11:10

peskypesky wrote: Hmm....Boston for prog-related doesn't seem like such an outrageous suggestion. I mean, I can hear some proggy influence in the first album. But I want to keep my balls, so f--- Boston!

Boston has two prog related moments. Foreplay/Longtime, the 8-minute song from the debut with extended soloing and instrumental sections and the 4-part, 12-minute Walk On Suite from Walk On. Other than that, they don't have a prog bone in them. But this isn't the Boston discussion, so Ill shut my trap

I'm not famillar enough with Kiss to make a judgement but to me they seem more like Zepplin and Sabbath than Yes or Genesis, but anyone can make one, rogue prog album... I'm tempted to listen to it, but I also don't want to pay for it if its just a kiss album with some keyboards and one track thats longer than five minutes.

Despite Jim's arguments I think that they should be added because of their progressive nature towards live performances and their influence on the rock, power rock, power metal and disco scenes in the mid and late 70s. If not for them we would not have a lot of music. Plus, the cover for Destroyer is a helluva lot better than Love Beach. Kiss may never have made a side long epic but a lot of their songs show progressive tenancies, just listen to the speed change in "Shout It Out Loud" or the troubadouristic qualities of "Detroit Rock City".

Be more open minded Jim. This is a progressive rock archive, not nazi Germany.

This is hilarious.