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Moatilliatta
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Topic: Between the Buried and Me Appreciation Thread Posted: December 18 2008 at 00:52 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: December 18 2008 at 00:20 |
And because Between The Buried and Me kicks so much ass, I shall bump for the sake of people that have yet to see this thread.
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 19:56 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
avalanchemaster wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Their music is such a terrible mess, took me a while to build some tolerance... not that I still have, but at least now i acknowledge the awesomness |
if by "mess" you mean that it constantly changes styles and time sigs and does not follow a predictable course, than YES, it is a beautiful mess!
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Precisely, there is almost no melody which makes it very hard to swallow, in an avant garde sense... kinda like Behold the Arctopus with vocals.
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? There are melodies everywhere. Except for the bulk of "The Decade of Statues" and "Informal Gluttony," the tracks on Colors are rife with melodies, or maybe I have a more broad definition of melody. Certainly there is a lot going on at any given time, but it's all distinguishable and memorable.
I also find it interesting that you have a Gojira avatar and are saying that this is "a terrible mess," with no melody, that took you a while to build some tolerance. To me Gojira is way more difficult to swallow. They're heavier, and for longer periods of time, with way less melody and less to connect to emotionally. |
Yes there are TONS of melodies gallavanting all over the place....broken apart by crazed atonal riffage.... they have great dynamics I say!
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zappaholic
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 19:35 |
There's not much I can say about these guys that hasn't already been said. They rawk.
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 18:29 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
? There are melodies everywhere. Except for the bulk of "The Decade of Statues" and "Informal Gluttony," the tracks on Colors
are rife with melodies, or maybe I have a more broad definition of
melody. Certainly there is a lot going on at any given time, but it's
all distinguishable and memorable.
I also find it interesting that you have a Gojira avatar and are
saying that this is "a terrible mess," with no melody, that took you a
while to build some tolerance. To me Gojira is way more difficult to
swallow. They're heavier, and for longer periods of time, with way less
melody and less to connect to emotionally. |
The one of the best things about a great album is to be rewarding after repeated listens, so it was more of a compliment I
meant exactly that there is so much going on in every song it's pretty
overwhelming at first, and takes a while to untangle the ends. The
genius of BTBAM is that they create insanely complex music that
nonetheless makes sense and is memorable, unlike so many metalcore
bands these days who get it wrong. I mean melody in a more traditional sense, i'm not a musician but their riffs sound more abrasive and atonal, as opposed to the standard polished riffs metal bands use these days. They also switch riffs and whole genres so many times during a song it takes longet to get the whole picture. Kinda like with Meshuggah's Nothing where it took me about 5 listens to tell the difference between songs and 5 more to learn to like them. As for Gojira, it's strange
that you find them harder... Their sound is more consistent and songs
are more conventionally structured, i.e. they're not nearly as
adventurous.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 15:07 |
The Miracle wrote:
avalanchemaster wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Their music is such a terrible mess, took me a while to build some tolerance... not that I still have, but at least now i acknowledge the awesomness |
if by "mess" you mean that it constantly changes styles and time sigs and does not follow a predictable course, than YES, it is a beautiful mess!
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Precisely, there is almost no melody which makes it very hard to swallow, in an avant garde sense... kinda like Behold the Arctopus with vocals.
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? There are melodies everywhere. Except for the bulk of "The Decade of Statues" and "Informal Gluttony," the tracks on Colors are rife with melodies, or maybe I have a more broad definition of melody. Certainly there is a lot going on at any given time, but it's all distinguishable and memorable.
I also find it interesting that you have a Gojira avatar and are saying that this is "a terrible mess," with no melody, that took you a while to build some tolerance. To me Gojira is way more difficult to swallow. They're heavier, and for longer periods of time, with way less melody and less to connect to emotionally.
Edited by Moatilliatta - December 08 2008 at 15:34
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 14:06 |
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 13:58 |
The Miracle wrote:
Their music is such a terrible mess, took me a while to build some tolerance... not that I still have, but at least now i acknowledge the awesomness
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if by "mess" you mean that it constantly changes styles and time sigs and does not follow a predictable course, than YES, it is a beautiful mess!
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 13:35 |
Their music is such a terrible mess, took me a while to build some tolerance... not that I still have, but at least now i acknowledge the awesomness
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 13:19 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Colors pretty much destroyed my face when I first heard it. I have been unable to go more than a week without putting it in my CD player since I bought it. It was the most perfect release in metal for 2007 IMO 10/10 for me, easily.
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yes it is good.....but did not quite match the brilliance of Martyr's "feeding the abscess"..... otherwise, yes BTBAM rules something fierce!
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 11:39 |
Oh man, I can't use words to describe how awesome this band is! When I first heard the band, I couldn't get over how good "Mordecai" was. Then Alaska came out, and me and my first thought it couldn't possibly get better than "Selkies." And then they dropped Colors...and my life will never be the same.
To whom it applies, let's write some five-star reviews for Colors. The album's current score is entirely unfitting!
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The Pessimist
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 10:31 |
Colors may well be one of the best and most innovative prog metal albums ever created. Foam Born, Ants Of The Sky and PTTS are the highest played songs on my iTunes at the moment, the band just has so much to offer.
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Sunny In Jeddah
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Posted: December 08 2008 at 08:01 |
I keep meaning to check out this band
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Plankowner
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Posted: December 07 2008 at 22:57 |
Think I'll listen to "Silent Circus" in honor of this thread
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: December 07 2008 at 21:12 |
My copy of Colors seems to be eternally in transit to me :(. Stupid University post office.
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Posted: December 07 2008 at 20:00 |
MisterProg2112 wrote:
Oh, and did I mention they're flawless live?
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This so true. I couldn't hear a single mistake when I saw the live.
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Posted: December 07 2008 at 19:58 |
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: December 07 2008 at 19:57 |
My first listen was Colors. At first I didn't like it tons, now, it's one of two albums that I can't go 2 days without listening too. When I first started too like colors, I also liked Alaska, but not Silent Circus or Self-titled. 2-3 months later, I love everything. I just recently got Colors Live, and can honestly say it is one of the best music DVD's disregard that, DVD's I have.
One of my favorite bands for sure.
Oh, and did I mention they're flawless live?
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burritounit
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Posted: December 07 2008 at 19:29 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Ohhh man, I actually liked the album straight away, but at first it wasn't 10/10, because it had not sunk in yet. After listening to it a few times, I knew I was in love with it. I remember when I used to listen to White Wall on repeat. When a band writes a song over 14 minutes long that I can put on repeat, you know they have done something amazing:)
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It's true. Ohh well I think I'm gonna listen to it tonight. It's been quite a while since I've listened to it.
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"I've walked on water, run through fire, can't seem to feel it anymore. It was me, waiting for me..."
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: December 07 2008 at 19:25 |
Ohhh man, I actually liked the album straight away, but at first it wasn't 10/10, because it had not sunk in yet. After listening to it a few times, I knew I was in love with it. I remember when I used to listen to White Wall on repeat. When a band writes a song over 14 minutes long that I can put on repeat, you know they have done something amazing:)
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