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    Posted: December 12 2008 at 10:58
Frankly I have always argued that music should express emotions and must be an integral part of my approach to the pure enjoyment of the same. If a song I do not transmit emotions (no matter how strong) I do not like it. In my unfortunate life (as only I can be able to say so) I have had different experiences that have prompted me to say some basic concepts like to have a positive approach to life. In music I discovered that the Prog created in me a positive charge, for free pass through difficult moments.
 
Frankly, especially in recent years, I had many problems. That I passed with our loved music and the with the few friends who I truly be considered in terms of understanding what they felt.
 
First I have to make an excursus outside the music. In fact I must say that my friends are all Metallers or Prog Metallers or, still, bikers. With the most sincere friends I have shared moments of my life.
With other friends I shared only a beer. I could close the speech here but ... I would, for a moment, to clarify that in my life I had more satisfaction when I managed to have friendly relations with the girls or womens.
I can not understand why. Yet it is with the other half of the sky that I had and have better relationships.
Do not think that I speak of relationships based on sex. Why do I seek the true friendship. With two persons was true love. With the first person... Well... With the first person I was stupid. I liked it a lot and I must say that I had caught his attention. But because the company that school (and that she was forced to attend) have never come out with her. In truth, I tried to fly over but after a short time I realized that I could not manage to have a serious relationship with her. I was 19 years and her 16... Today I learned that's wrong... And the thing  opened in me a big wound. With the second person... I will tell you that I did not understand why the fate we had taken two roads so different. But I think it's been better so!
 
With women is so me. When they try me I do not find. When I try... Yet the first kiss with the first person (I prefer not to make the names...) was the most profound experience of my life!
 
With the music works more or less like this. And I can not say that this is wrong. Just makes me feel alone.
The Prog is not a beautiful woman. My sensibility leads me to love more female voices, that I almost can not away from women.Is this a bad thing? Probably in a woman I search the depths. And when I think I understand that in the women I trying done that powerful fluid that drives two people to combine their genes to form a new life.
 
Certainly not all women send me through the spiked heels, miniskirts and breathtaking necklines.
 
If I am speaking of music... As I have said for women goes for music. That's why in my reviews speak too often of emotions and feeling. It is my fault, I know very well.
 
Compared Prog to a beautiful woman? I am not saying that. Yet for me is a means to understand the Prog. And also the women.
 
This Christmas I decided to raise my soul to heaven and declare that never fails to have what I'm in women (except in my mother). But I find all this in Prog?
 
 
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I think Prog is more like an old and dear friend, you get a certain something from them you don't get from others and you feel comfortable with and stimulated by them, always loyal and only disappointing occasionally.

  
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well David... Life is strange and sometimes incomprehensible. After living almost to the day... Today, no. But I now I wonder: 'What if I had chosen that day to share my best years with that girl... Today I would be a better person? '
 
Of course friends are important but a criterion to make friends is to find among those who have the same taste in music. As those two girls that I have not been able to convince that I was the right person to share the best moments of our lives!
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The problem with the " What if....." scenario is it is upon reflection. You can never compare your experience to prog music to being with a good companion or even worse off either way due to spending too much time with one and not the other! The important thing is stay loyal to both, fiercely protective and enjoy the now cos you can't bank the pastSmile
 
Oh and btw my wife would not even bother trying to compete with my love of prog music, besides she gets peace and quiet which is music to her earsLOL
 
Prog on Mandy and have a great festive holiday ( if you are planning to have one) 
 


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Well... Prog and girl... They are two ingredients of my life!
 
But I admit, Chris: You have totally right!
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I keep reading this over and over ..  interesting ..  funny thing is my last partner left me due to my interest in prog over her if only she had worn that Rush T shirt I asked her to put on.  Ouch
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Yorkie X... PinchUnhappy for you!
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Well, nice blog though I didn't understand the complete message you were trying to pass us through, anyways my thoughtsare much like "Atavachron" thoughts, prog is your loyal friend who gives you pleasent and touchy times..
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You are still relatively young.  And you need to be a lot older to come close to understanding women.  If there is one thing I have learned is that most all of them have two totally different sides.  They put on a nice face in public but can be absolute monsters to the ones they love.  It took me a long time to figure this out.  You still think that most of them are these wonderful, gentle beings that you just want to get to know and see if you are compatible. But until you see the second side, it is really hard to know the true them.  Most people know my wife as a totally polite, lovely, giving woman who wouldn't hurt a fly.  I know the truth that often times she would rather spit on me than look at me. I truly believe that it is hard for her to keep up the facade all day every day and that she vents her frustrations on me, just to get them out. 

The thing that is different is that she is unlike a lot of women who simply do not want to be alone.  They will put up with a ton of crap from men because they don't know if something better will come along.  My wife is not like that at all as are a lot of women.  You need to identify which one you have if you enter a relationship.  Not that you should treat them like crap just to test the theory but it should help you understand where they are coming from.

And then you have the marrying type and the good time girls.  Figure out which one you have in that area.  Because there is a lot to marriage besides the physical.  Like cooking and taking care of the nice house.  I do a lot of cleaning and cooking but my wife does so much when it comes to taking care of the house and kids that I would be lost without her.  And I'm not saying you need a gourmet chef or you can't cook, but do you want someone who wants to eat out every night and can't boil water?  That gets old real fast.  Do you want someone who can't pay a bill or has a lot of debt?  Someone who can't have stimulating conversation?  Marriage is hard and compatabilty is so important.

I am like you in that I usually find it easier to talk to women than men.  I have no friends who like prog, so that is out, so you talk about sports and complain about women.  LOL

What does this have  to do with prog?  Women are even more intricate in what goes through their heads than most prog bands could ever hope to dream up.  I can tell in your reviews that you take them seriously and try hard to express what the music can mean to the listener.  But prog only goes one way.
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John, what is even write is also my thoughts, in general.Also is important what you wrote, for me. Although I have not yet developed your own experience I know that now I can share what you wrote.

After all, as I wrote a wrong company of friends can cause great pain. More for me than for you. Even for a woman because it is easy to change partners but for no man. Especially if like me at the same time acknowledges that the company had to change and that I (simultaneously) wrong with this girl.

I love women like Prog. But are two types of love totally different. And I do not know how to ear because I find instead that the Prog looks at a woman, that I have betrayed (to be cowardly).
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What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand...
Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style?
Is that it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2008 at 13:51
Well this will probably be of no help but my wife and I have a very strong bond yet we share very little overlap in musical tastes.  So as much of a music nut as I am and as much as she isn't it all works out. Big smile
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Hi, I'm in total agreement!!!! Music without emotion is not music that I enjoy at all. Unlike many here I love Genesis's Duke album because that's all about emotion!!! Some of the most powerful music that I know has come from Journey because of the emotion behind them!!!
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Andrea, I thought a lot about my post last night and was worried I was trying to come across as some type of expert, which I am certainly not.  Once you think you know it all, you are doomed so you have to always be willing to learn and roll with the punches. 

I lived with a woman for three years prior to marrying someone else and when I look back on that, I realize how totally devoid of any knowledge about women that I was.  She left me because I had become a jerk.  Of course after she goes, that's when I decide to be a man and I asked her to marry me, which she declined.  I was pretty broken up but now I know it was for the best for both of us.  I wish her only the best because she deserved a better man than what I was then.

I believe you will have happiness in your future.  After all, you are Mandrakeroot!
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand...
Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style?
Is that it?
 
Exactly!
 
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
 
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world!
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Originally posted by johnobvious johnobvious wrote:

Andrea, I thought a lot about my post last night and was worried I was trying to come across as some type of expert, which I am certainly not.  Once you think you know it all, you are doomed so you have to always be willing to learn and roll with the punches. 

I lived with a woman for three years prior to marrying someone else and when I look back on that, I realize how totally devoid of any knowledge about women that I was.  She left me because I had become a jerk.  Of course after she goes, that's when I decide to be a man and I asked her to marry me, which she declined.  I was pretty broken up but now I know it was for the best for both of us.  I wish her only the best because she deserved a better man than what I was then.

I believe you will have happiness in your future.  After all, you are Mandrakeroot!
 
This is the real life, my friend...!
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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand...
Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style?
Is that it?
 
Exactly!
 
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
 
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world!

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Interesting artice, enjoyed it.
Well I think it is somehow connceted very much, these two essences of life, music is there to remind me some experiences in life, feelings especially about girls, and makes it all more intense. In progressive music I percieve a lot of depth, emotions, kind of intelligence, that I usually don't find much in other styles (though there are many exceptions, of course), especially in most of mainstream.
I can't go to disco and find girl there, because can't accept this, to me very superficial music and lifestyle as a whole, that is disgusting. Guess that someone who love music in that way I do, usually doesn't search for woman who is shallow, follows the fashion, trends  etc. (I find most of girls like that unfortunately, I'm still surrounded by this life as university student).
Speaking for myself, concerning mentality of girl, I have always difficult and complicated time to find similar soul in her, I much insist on that sort of similar qualities like in music (man who can enjoy and like mainstream music played on discos, usually don't have problem to enjoy more shallow women that I really can't stand).
So... it may give no sense what i've written:), but still there is surely something about it.:)
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I am a misanthrope, I relate more to music than to people, no seriously!!! LOL   This also means I hate small talk like few things in the world so when I make conversation of substantial length outside my professional orbit, it is to do with music or books or sports...in which case, I am almost always talking to men rather than women. For whatever reason, in my country women are not encouraged, though not discouraged either, to have artistic ideas, so I don't bump into any women who are as passionate about music as I am or some of my male friends are without making it a livelihood. 

I am in agreement with Johnobvious though I have not entered into relationships with women so far in life.  Do not let the facade of gentleness and warmth deceive you. My observation is that even in matters of work, women are more likely to doublecross you than men....men are - let's accept the truth guys - a little stupid Tongue and horrible at acting and they usually crack under pressure and start 'singing' - before you say 'smartaleck', let me tell you I am no different.  LOL  I have seen some women colleagues deny their responsibilities in a job we both had worked on together at the crunch moment with an absolutely straight, innocent face and leave me alone in the firing line.   More recently, I was on an audit assignment where I watched with amusement a pretty young woman employee flirt subtly but evidently to escape censure from her boss and routinely rant vehemently at her fellow employees to lay the blame for her mistakes on them. I don't really blame her, if I could get rid of all my problems by flashing a million-dollar smile, why not? LOL
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Originally posted by stewe stewe wrote:

Interesting artice, enjoyed it.
Well I think it is somehow connceted very much, these two essences of life, music is there to remind me some experiences in life, feelings especially about girls, and makes it all more intense. In progressive music I percieve a lot of depth, emotions, kind of intelligence, that I usually don't find much in other styles (though there are many exceptions, of course), especially in most of mainstream.
I can't go to disco and find girl there, because can't accept this, to me very superficial music and lifestyle as a whole, that is disgusting. Guess that someone who love music in that way I do, usually doesn't search for woman who is shallow, follows the fashion, trends  etc. (I find most of girls like that unfortunately, I'm still surrounded by this life as university student).
Speaking for myself, concerning mentality of girl, I have always difficult and complicated time to find similar soul in her, I much insist on that sort of similar qualities like in music (man who can enjoy and like mainstream music played on discos, usually don't have problem to enjoy more shallow women that I really can't stand).

So... it may give no sense what i've written:), but still there is surely something about it.:)
 
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