Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

rushfan4 wrote: I have a fairly sizable FK and related collection too.  I know that I don't have early Kaipa releases and Roine's early solo releases, but I have just about everything since The Flower Kings came around.  Although, I am sure that I am missing some things.  I know I don't have the latests Tomas Bodin solo releases, and the latest Pain of Salvation releases, since I guess technically they would count as related.  Also, not sure what former drummers and Roine's brother have been up to, or whether or not they have other releases that I don't have. I suspect that I probably fall further behind every other day at the rate these guys release things.

I have it all, I can honestly say.  Well, okay, I don't have the first couple Stolt solo albums, but from what I've heard I don't really have any desire to have them.  Same with Fantasia.  Of course, those are all long out of print and I have never heard any suggestion they will ever be available again.

Oh, I also still don't have the last Karmakanic, but I will get that at some point in the near future.

But aside from those, I have all Kaipa with Stolt (and some without), all Tangent, all FK (including fan club CD's and unofficial and official boots), all Tomas Bodin, all Jonas, all Stolt, and the Hasse album.    Also all TA, including the Stolt mix of the first album.

There may be more I'm missing............I know of at least one album that Stolt plays lead on one track that I don't have (can't remember the name or who it is at the moment).

dennismoore wrote: darkshade wrote: You guys are STILL talking about Chicken Farmer Song?  As someone who listens to a lot of jazz, when the band get's jazzy, it's not very atonal to my ears. They don't get too 'free' in their playing. It usually reminds me of post-bop, but really adventurous post-bop, like it wants to go in the free jazz direction, but never quite makes it. OR they go in the more fusion direction (Jonas bumpin the bass while Tomas is playing a synth line, etc.) Hi darkshade, Please do remember, this thread was highjacked(by me) and has been re-established as: The New(and improved) Chicken Farmer Song Thread - Please see prior pages for details. As far as the millions of atonal jazz intervals, I referred to, I was just having some fun with infandous. Though I do prefer the more classical edge to a prog band a la ELP & YES, I do really enjoy TFK, but their jazzy/fusion side sounds like every other jazz/fusion band like Return to Forever, and I have heard that stuff already, in spades.  I admire the jazz side of TFK but it just doesn't strike me as original.  But yes, people could say the same thing about the classical ideas that a band like ELP kinda recycled, so I know this is all just me. I am probably the only one here in this thread that prefers Roine's brother on bass to Jonas.  I never cared for that hundreds of notes in the high register jazz stuff that Jonas does(a la Jaco Pastorius).  I like the bass to kick me in the gut and move me across the floor a bit, like the bass in: Genesis   - bass very deep and powerful YES - Pure Groovin low end satisfaction! TFK Chicken Farmer Song - Awesome deep bass! (Yes I know that is Jonas playin) Renaissance - That bass really gives that band some stones! The Who - John E. makes little doubt that the bass has the LOW end well covered ELP - Check out the bass in Tarkus - Eruption or A Time And A Place and perhaps the best example: Geddy Lee:  Play "In The End" on a good stereo and dig the bass.

infandous wrote: Well, in the USA the innocent most definitely need a lawyer and defense.  Just look at all the death row inmates that are exonerated when they are proven innocent (not to mention the ones who never got the chance that we don't know about).

Roland113 wrote: dennismoore wrote:   YES - Pure Groovin low end satisfaction! Huh?  See, I wouldn't use any of those words to describe Chris Squire's bass style.  I've only recently gotten to Yes despite years of trying and I'm pretty certain that the reason it took me so long it my lack of appreciation for Mr. Squire's playing.  Please don't get me wrong, I can admire his musical ability, I just don't like his style.  I think he spends way to much time in the high register and he could stand to groove a bit more.

Hi Roland113,

This has always bothered me. Who is on the Stardust We Are front cover?

From left to right, it's (?, ?, Roine Stolt, Jamie Salazar, Michael Stolt.) Who are the 2 on the left? I feel like Tomas Bodin is 2nd from left, but I'm not sure.

I thought Hasse Froberg was far left (I thought maybe it was Hasse Bruniusson), and Bodin 2nd from left. Yes?

Hasse Bruniusson is not on the cover right? I only see 5 people.

infandous wrote: rushfan4 wrote: I have a fairly sizable FK and related collection too.  I know that I don't have early Kaipa releases and Roine's early solo releases, but I have just about everything since The Flower Kings came around.  Although, I am sure that I am missing some things.  I know I don't have the latests Tomas Bodin solo releases, and the latest Pain of Salvation releases, since I guess technically they would count as related.  Also, not sure what former drummers and Roine's brother have been up to, or whether or not they have other releases that I don't have. I suspect that I probably fall further behind every other day at the rate these guys release things.  I have it all, I can honestly say.  Well, okay, I don't have the first couple Stolt solo albums, but from what I've heard I don't really have any desire to have them.  Same with Fantasia.  Of course, those are all long out of print and I have never heard any suggestion they will ever be available again. Oh, I also still don't have the last Karmakanic, but I will get that at some point in the near future. But aside from those, I have all Kaipa with Stolt (and some without), all Tangent, all FK (including fan club CD's and unofficial and official boots), all Tomas Bodin, all Jonas, all Stolt, and the Hasse album.    Also all TA, including the Stolt mix of the first album. There may be more I'm missing............I know of at least one album that Stolt plays lead on one track that I don't have (can't remember the name or who it is at the moment).

zumacraig wrote: infandous wrote: rushfan4 wrote: I have a fairly sizable FK and related collection too.  I know that I don't have early Kaipa releases and Roine's early solo releases, but I have just about everything since The Flower Kings came around.  Although, I am sure that I am missing some things.  I know I don't have the latests Tomas Bodin solo releases, and the latest Pain of Salvation releases, since I guess technically they would count as related.  Also, not sure what former drummers and Roine's brother have been up to, or whether or not they have other releases that I don't have. I suspect that I probably fall further behind every other day at the rate these guys release things.  I have it all, I can honestly say.  Well, okay, I don't have the first couple Stolt solo albums, but from what I've heard I don't really have any desire to have them.  Same with Fantasia.  Of course, those are all long out of print and I have never heard any suggestion they will ever be available again. Oh, I also still don't have the last Karmakanic, but I will get that at some point in the near future. But aside from those, I have all Kaipa with Stolt (and some without), all Tangent, all FK (including fan club CD's and unofficial and official boots), all Tomas Bodin, all Jonas, all Stolt, and the Hasse album.    Also all TA, including the Stolt mix of the first album. There may be more I'm missing............I know of at least one album that Stolt plays lead on one track that I don't have (can't remember the name or who it is at the moment). okay, so if you had to choose just one from that collection, what would it be? i'm way behind on tangent and kaipa and karmakanic and agents of mercy :-)

My choice would probably be Who's The Boss in the Factory from Karmakanic or any of The Tangent albums.  I love all of the Tangent albums, but my absolute favorite are the first two.

yeah, i think i'll start with the first Tangent.  i've heard that one before.  i'm concerned some of these releases will be out of print....especially the Karmakanic ones.  i saw Wheel for like $100!  i also want to get agents of mercy soon.  i think it will take some time to get into those.  they seem very dense in terms of lyrics and atmosphere and less symphonic.  i'm just totally blown away that roine basically wrote all those AoM tunes.  excuse my french, but the guy is a f**king manic genius second only to zappa in terms of being prolific.  

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