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zumacraig
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Topic: Flower Kings Appreciation ThreadPosted: May 03 2012 at 15:24 |
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oh, i forgot about def lepperd. i cut my teeth on photograph. i had a bit of a def lepperd era with hysteria. that was a great album. i so much wanted to see them in concert. had to wait about 15 years though. i saw them with journey a few years ago. they still rock.
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If you ever get bored and want to read my backstory, it is somewhat posted here http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43586&PN=1 in my mosty defunct blog that I mean to get back to one of these days posting things that I can hopefully look back on and laugh at one day.
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zumacraig
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:04 |
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great story. the fact that Cheap Trick was you first favorite band is pretty bad ass. i didn't really start exploring them until a few years ago. some of their recent stuff is very good. they've basically been recording all the songs they shelved in the 80s when they were playing stuff the record company wanted them to play. a common thread i am seeing in this thread is that we all had a beatles and/or zep phase. then we dabbled in the big name prog bands. 'genesis used to be good'! that's exactly what i thought when i heard trick of the tale. 'and peter gabriel was in genesis!' good call on gentle giant and camel. GG are def in my top 5 classic prog bands. i do need to explore me some Eloy--the german pink floyd? as far as TFK goes, my buddy let me borrow a bunch of their CDs. i remember just being shocked the prog was still being made...and 25 min epics at that. i devoured Stardust and Rainmaker but kind of fell off the wagon until recently. i basically buy one or two CDs a month. i'm much happier when with quality over quantity. i'm just catching up on TFK and SB at this point. i may get into the off shoots at some point, maybe Tangent...but for now, its the main band.
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 07:43 |
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Wanna bet? Note the "wink". That was exactly what I meant
We do take great pride in "our" thread though.
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 07:45 |
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Just wanted to say that I appreciate The Flower Kings...
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:04 |
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Well guys, those musical histories have been fascinating reading
Unfortunately, I don't do long posts
My mum was into classical music and this definitely rubbed off on me. Hence I'll go weak at the knees over an ascending chord sequence when most people will wonder what this boring music is. Rachmaninov is the composer I love, his symphonies and piano concertos are wonderful. I also go for the more ambient classical mood music of the likes of Vaughn-Williams and Bruckner. My Dad has always been a big band guy. Glenn Miller is his hero and Duke Ellington and Tommy Dorsey are other favourites. He also dabbled with a bit of smaller group jazz, and I've always had a soft spot for Stan Getz's The Steamer as a result.
The first single I bought was Take Me Bak Ome by Slade
The first album I bought was Oxygene by Jean Michel Jarre and to be honest I'm very proud of that as a first album in my collection
Like most of you guys I was also really into The Who. For me this was back in the late 70s in my early teens and they were the first band I saw live at the Manchester Apollo back in probably about 1980. I dabbled a little with the Stones and Beatles but always much preferred The Who. I still do.
As a natural step I instantly adored Floyd once I heard their music. At this point Barney was a huge Genesis fan, he preferred Genesis and I preferred Floyd. We still do in fact
Anyway, that's enough for now, I wouldn't want to bore you all (echoes of the movie Airplane anybody?) and Part 2 will follow soon........... Edited by Roj M30 - May 04 2012 at 08:05 |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:32 |
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Funnily enough, despite my history I outlined earlier, Def Leppard was the first band I ever saw live (besides local and lesser known bands in my home town...mostly covers outfits). Actually, technically the first band I ever saw live was Queensryche, as they opened for Def Leppard when I saw them. So I guess my prog credentials are still (somewhat) intact ![]() Actually, I recall that I enjoyed them alot more than DL. I went because a buddy had tickets and asked me to go with him. Having never been to a real, big arena type concert before, I agreed to go. The second band I ever saw live was Rush, twice, on the Presto tour. |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:35 |
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Hey, we fans appreciate that. I appreciate Dream Theater as well, even though they aren't a favorite. I have all albums from Scenes through the latest one (but not Train Of Thought, as I've always been afraid of that one ) and the Score DVD, which is probably my favorite thing of theirs that I own. |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 10:05 |
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. . . and they appreciate you as well (welcome to the group)@ Roj, I'm kind of with you on the long posts, if I start typing something long, then I loose an hour of work before I realize what I was doing. Interestingly enough, while Genesis (shapes) was the first album (vinyl) that I ever bought, Rendezvous was the first CD that I ever bought. @ Zuma, I may be the exception to the Zep / Beatles I can honestly say that I've never had a period that I really explored either of those two bands. Not certain why, I like some of their songs, just not enough to really get into them. Maybe someday. @ Infandous, I agree totally with you about Score, I do have all of their albums love the first two with LaBrie then was hit and miss with them, when I picked up Score, I really fell back in love with them for a while. What a fantastic live album and DVD. Also, I love Rush. I went to quite a few concerts growing up with my Dad (Chicago, ELPowell, Yes, Moody Blues) but the first concert that I ever went to without parental was the 'A Show of Hands' tour by Rush. Absolutely loved it, saw them three more times (Roll the Bones, Counterparts and Time Machine). They are the only band that I've seen four times, Genesis is second at three shows (Invisible Touch, The Way We Walk and Turn it on Again (or what ever they called the 2001 reunion tour). |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 12:34 |
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Well, if we're talking the first CD I ever bought (as opposed to vinyl LP), then that would be..............Dark Side Of The Moon!
Which my dad liked more than I did at the time. I was 18, and left the CD with him when I went to college.......only to take it back a year later. Edited by infandous - May 04 2012 at 12:35 |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:29 |
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Well, thanks - it's nice to hear that around here. And between you and me, I am not a big fan of Train of Thought either - it's is the least played DT album in my collection. What's your favorite Flower Kings? Mine is... Meet the Flower Kings... but that's live, so it's cheating, haha! So I'll go with Flower Power, because Garden of Dreams is so amazing! |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:36 |
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well dude, you just gained a sh*tload of cred here by saying garden of dreams is your fav ![]() as far as DT goes, i can't seem to get into systematic chaos.
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:43 |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 14:19 |
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Glad I passed the test. ![]()
Not even "In the Presence of Enemies"? Systematic Chaos isn't my favorite album overall, but I LOVE putting the two parts of ItPoE together and playing them back to back - one of my favorite compositions by them. |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 14:45 |
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I like DT a lot, they're one of my favorite bands, and an important one in my explorations in prog rock. They were the band that helped me get acquainted with prog as a genre back in 04/05, and they are the band that got me back into prog rock back in 09 after a 2 year hiatus away from almost all forms of rock music, particularly prog.
I go back and forth between DT and TFK as my overall favorite prog bands, right now I'm kind of back into DT, mostly 90s DT (Listening to FII right now, probably my least favorite DT album besides the debut, but I'm really enjoying FII right now). I like all their albums to a certain extent, as I do with TFK. I have my favs of course. I think Systematic Chaos is a great, though flawed, album. DT - It's hard, but I think SDOIT, BC&SL, and ADTOE are my 3 favorite albums; but I love them all (except the debut, which I think is only ok sometimes.). Before ADTOE came out, the 3rd album would have probably been SFAM. Octavarium is their best composition, imo. TFK - It's hard, but I think UTF, SR, and TSONE are my 3 favorite albums; but I love them all. GoD is the best TFK composition, imo. Edited by darkshade - May 04 2012 at 14:46 |
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 14:53 |
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For the Flower Kings, I was thinking about it, and it's actually kind of hard for me to pick a favorite album overall. I mean, Garden of Dreams is absolutely my favorite composition by them. But I think some of their other albums might be better as a whole...I dunno, have to think about it some more.
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 14:57 |
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Yea TFK albums are hard to rank. There's a couple that I'd put at the bottom of my list, but the remaining 8 (9) albums would all tie for #1
I have When Dream and Day Re-Unite, and while it's nice to have James singing on those songs, which makes it a lot better, the songs themselves are just not as good as almost everything they'd release from I&W onwards, even FII or SC. Besides, Live at the Marquee has a better version of Killing Hand and A Fortune In Lies, Budokan has a better version of Only A Matter of Time, and Score has a better Afterlife (and includes Another Won, which is an awesome thrashy song). Edited by darkshade - May 04 2012 at 14:59 |
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Jazz-rock conspiracy? Zappa and Miles played at the same festivals in the summer of '69 right BEFORE Hot Rats AND Bitches Brew were recorded. |
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Haha, I took Scott's (Rushfan4) idea and found mu music history from a previous post:
Here's the actual text:
Now, the interesting thing here is thank you Scott for being the second person to have 'spoken' to me on here, though I will admit, I sounded a little whiney.
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 15:08 |
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Roland, I may have read that before, but it's always a good read.
Hey, A Trick of the Tail is my second favorite Genesis album, behind Selling England By The Pound. Edited by darkshade - May 04 2012 at 15:09 |
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zumacraig
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 16:27 |
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[QUOTE=Roland113]
Haha, I took Scott's (Rushfan4) idea and found mu music history from a previous post:
Here's the actual text: [QUOTE=Roland113} thanks for posting. i was born in washington PA. my dad went to school there. saw the dead and phish many times in pittsburgh. cool to see you're a genesis fan. we can't dance is a good album. i love fading lights. nice send off with a long proggy keys solo. incidentally, i may be going to see musical box do lamb this sunday. i'm so jealous you've seen genesis so many times. i never did. seen rush a bunch though. we're so similar, i'm basically an SB, TFK, DT guy with more Rush and Yes than genesis. great post.
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