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M27Barney
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Roland113
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But Benny's a classic!
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zumacraig
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WoA is a great band. Need to check out some of those other ones you mentioned. Any other recommendations?
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Stardust we are.
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rushfan4
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I also recently listened to the two albums from Lionville and they were really good. Edited by rushfan4 - July 26 2013 at 15:25 |
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infandous
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All this talk of AOR............talk about a disturbance in the force
No, I can appreciate good pop from time to time. I think the only thing that sometimes bothers me is when great prog bands feel the need to add "pop" songs to their prog albums. Not that this is always bad, as the Flower Kings have shown us with some really good short pop tunes, but I think they often dilute otherwise great albums. As to Benny the Bouncer...............one night many years ago, a good friend and I were tripping balls on some really good acid, and we listened to Brain Salad Surgery. We became convinced that the whole thing was a concept album, and that each and every tune, including Benny, fit that concept perfectly. I honestly can't recall the overall concept now, but Benny was basically the "man on the street" part of it........the peasants or lower class example, if you will. Anyway, it seemed to all make perfect sense at the time. Of course, in retrospect I find that song hard to not skip over on the rare occasions when I still listen to that album. |
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M27Barney
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What's Really Good Acid? Hydrochloric? Nitric? Sulphuric? Ribonucleic? So what you are saying here is that you have got your liking for clunks, whingles, phlurbs, and splunches whilst under the influence of Lysergic Acid? Well that explains that then.....Even BTB would sound good when tripping......
Now listen to The Lamb without class A drugs and see if The Waiting room is better than "The Lamia".....
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zumacraig
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Hasse said on FB that he and the HFMC drummer played a duo gig last weekend. Now that would be fun. I'd love to see a trio format with the TFK guys in various configurations.
@Roland, I know this is a late comment, but I also have been having trouble commenting, especially on iphone. I'll write something and when i go to post i get an error message. Frustrating. |
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infandous
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You have the Circus Brimstone album? That is instrumental Flower Kings/Roine Stolt material played by Roine, Jonas, Tomas and Marcus. One of my favorite side project albums (it's live), and I wish they would do something like that again. |
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infandous
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I never said Waiting Room was better than The Lamia........just that I liked it. |
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dennismoore
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Ok, 2 points I will venture to connect. One is AOR crap and the other is Benny.
The problem with pop/AOR music is not that it is inferior or bad, it is that is has little "staying power". A few listens give light hearted enjoyment then it is gone, since there's not much lasting musical depth. ELP BSS on the other hand has a lifetime's worth of depth and can stand up to repeated listens basically forever, once you get past the original burn out stage.
I over-dosed on YES for years and I though I was done, well I waited a few years and YES music became fresh again, now I can listen to it (giving it an occasional rest if needed) and I can go on forever with it. Hence, the permanent nature
of quality music. I do think over time we will find this to be true of most good prog, jazz or classical. Not with AOR, since by nature it is meant to please superficially.
So if you jokers wanna play Abba or Wham to get you through your prog overdoses, then fine. For me, I prefer to "lighten things" up when needed with:
Led Zeppelin
The Who
Classic Elton John
Thee Dog Night! yeah!!!!
As far as Benny The Bouncer: If you people knew anything about piano playing you would be on your knees worshiping Benny The Bouncer! The piano work there is very difficult and perfectly executed. For those that don't know, Keith Emerson's keyboard heroes are largely old ragtime players. He has adopted that style and made it his own frankly. That is why ELP albums always had songs like:
Jeremy Bender
The Sherriff
Benny The Bouncer
Though light hearted songs, the piano work is actually monstrously hard and precise. Simply incredible piano playing.
Stop listening to idiots banging on garbage can lids and randomly swatting at windchimes and pay more attention
to genuine masterful piano work like.... uh.... Benny The Bouncer!
Thank you for your time.
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M27Barney
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^ Hmmm - I take your word for it that BTB has in-fact got hard piano work in it, however the song just doesn't have anything of merit unlike Karn Evil 9 first impression parts 1 & 2. And the lyrics are atrocious as is the singing.
I lighten things up by listening to
Saga
Camel
Celine Dion
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dennismoore
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As far as Benny's singing: Dude, what do you have against your Cockney cousins???
Celine Dion?
Good one Laddie, you had me going there for a minute. So what do you really listen to when you lighten things up?
(You do know, if you say Celine Dion again, you will be the laughing stock of this dump. Just sayin...
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Cockney Cousins??? Those b*****ds chased me all round the fookin underground on several occasions - I fookin hate the sov wearin, jellied eel eating cockney t***s..... |
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dennismoore
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P.S. I didn't know those Cockney types were ruffians.
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Now to comment on my previous post:
"begins at $700 per person" Yeah, I won't be going. Personally, I find these prog cruises a sign of the times......proggers are aging, and the prog we love is aging with them (not gracefully). Yes, there is new, younger prog, but I haven't found a lot of that that I enjoy very much. I suppose if I could afford it, I'd probably go, cause I'm sure it would be fun. But for that price, I could go to two Nearfests (if it still existed), or Rosfests. Just not worth it, IMO. My woman and I are planning a cruise, but as much as she like a lot of my music, I don't think she'd enjoy it non-stop for days like that. We can find better rates than that as well (without good music, of course). |
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dennismoore
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$700.00 per concert ticket PLUS cruise fare?
By the way, say what you want about the older prog bands aging, but the "new kids" have never come even close
to their level.
I have seen Porcupine Tree & TFK & Spock's Beard(with Neal) and all those shows were around $25.00, which was
a fair price, frankly cause even though the concerts were enjoyable, they weren't even close to seeing, Pink Floyd, YES or ELP in their heyday... So if the prog kids wanna charge big time money, they really need to step things up a notch.
You've lamented about the older prog bands being long in the tooth, that is a fair statment. Problem is, the newer generation has never even come close to composing or performing at the level of the "old timers" you refer to.
Maybe Eric Johnson? Yeah that guy is worth whatever $$$ he wants to charge...
Thanks for the Cruise update, though. I would love to see the old fart(your jargin) cruise of 2014, with YES & Steve Hackett & UK, etc... I saw the UK reunion DVD from a few years ago and Eddie Jobson just schooled the entire planet wih his performance. Wow!
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Horizons
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Hahah why would anyone want to Yes now anyways. Like Dennis said you can see high quality bands currently at their peak for 15-30 dollars. I've seen PT and Swilson in the same venue where I was 2 feet from the stage. I think that's an amazing deal for 20 dollars and not having to deal with the awful conditions on a cruise.
Sure there are one or two bands I'd like to see like Sound of Contact. But for that much money lol.. I got front row rush tickets for less than half of that sorry. What a scam. |
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dennismoore
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Dude,
You pop in at the oddest occasions, nonetheless:
Do you mean to say you had RUSH tickets for $350.00? What do you mean by "half"?
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