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    Posted: April 28 2005 at 12:44
Originally posted by Certif1ed

DT are famous for their re-use of Metallica riffs - especially on "Images and Words"

Still fail to hear those stolen riffs, sorry Cert. And as you yourself admitted, these stolen riffs have been altered, so I really seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for the tricks of them sneaky, riff-stealing, non-prog carpetbaggers!

To be fair, though, one of the riffs in "Endless Sacrifice" ("Train of Thought") sounds strikingly similar to a Symphony X riff from "The Divine Wings of Tragedy" title suite.

It's good to hear,however, that DT is in such good company - Led Zep (compare the opening of "Immigrant Song" and one of the songs from Lucifer's Friend's album with the same title. "Ride in the Sky" is the song in question, I think), Deep Purple...
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the terje rypdal's solo on the singles collection album is copied from eddie van halen's eruption
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Originally posted by greenback

the terje rypdal's solo on the singles collection album is copied from eddie van halen's eruption

 

LoveTerj Rypdal in hard jazz rock mode - e.g. Chaser album - which track is lifted on The SIngles Collection?
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I've listened to ELP trilogy and Spartacus and I find no similarities - other than the Triumvirat effort is superior.........
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Posts: 3046 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 16:34

Originally posted by Swinton MCR

I've listened to ELP trilogy and Spartacus and I find no similarities - other than the Triumvirat effort is superior.........

Triumvirat is such a weak copy of ELP it is pathetic

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Originally posted by Swinton MCR

I've listened to ELP trilogy and Spartacus and I find no similarities - other than the Triumvirat effort is superior.........

???? How can you say that.

I think the similarity is very very big. Like Threefates (I think) said in another thread, Jurgen fritz just wanted to be an Emerson...yes is a good keyboardist, but cheesy composition at all !! 
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Originally posted by Dick Heath

Originally posted by greenback

the terje rypdal's solo on the singles collection album is copied from eddie van halen's eruption

 

LoveTerj Rypdal in hard jazz rock mode - e.g. Chaser album - which track is lifted on The SIngles Collection?

U.N.I around 4:30



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Originally posted by OldFatherThames

Originally posted by Swinton MCR

I've listened to ELP trilogy and Spartacus and I find no similarities - other than the Triumvirat effort is superior.........

???? How can you say that.

I think the similarity is very very big. Like Threefates (I think) said in another thread, Jurgen fritz just wanted to be an Emerson...yes is a good keyboardist, but cheesy composition at all !! 

some parts are quite similar, but who cares? I find the overall sound and style VERY different from ELP, and most of all BETTER!!



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Iq - Harvest of Souls = Genesis - Supper's Ready 
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Certainly, ELP greatly influenced Triumvirat... but I see it as their own. I love Spartacus.

 

Also, about Led Zeppelin. I hear (and it's confirmed) that the intro to Stairway to Heaven isn't theirs... they took it from a band they were touring with at the time (the name of the band is escaping me at the moment)
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I wrote "Stairway to Heaven" 7 times before I realised that Jimmy Page had already done it
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Posts: 762 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2005 at 08:18

Originally posted by Certif1ed

I wrote "Stairway to Heaven" 7 times before I realised that Jimmy Page had already done it

Yeah but Jimmy Page pinched it from 'Taurus' on the first Spirit album didn't he?
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Posts: 2374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2005 at 08:42

Originally posted by Tony

Iq - Harvest of Souls = Genesis - Supper's Ready 

And the titletrack from "The Seventh House" is said to have a stolen riff, although I don't remember now who it was stolen from...
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