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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 13:09
I'm a big enough fan that I have all of Chicago's album from I - XXXII (Stone of Sisyphus), so I am probably quite qualified to do so.  But it'll have to wait until after April 15th before I'll have any time to get around to it so if someone has time to do it before than, than more power to you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 13:12
thanks Scott...  if it ends up in my lap I might use you for editting and fleshing out. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 11:03
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by omri omri wrote:

I know only few songs of the band but based on that knowledge they aren't prog at all. If they have a more progy side that I'm not aware of then fine.
However, I have a feeling that wer'e widening the borders a bit too much.
Who's next ? Tom Petty and the heartbreakers ?


If a number of people with a vast knowledge of prog have suggested their inclusion, it means there is some merit to said suggestion. I know the band even less than you do, but don't doubt the expertise of those who know more than I do. As much as I can understand some members' frustration with some of the policies, I don't think it is a good reason for doubting people's integrity, or suggesting we want to include Tom Petty, ABBA, or whatever. Please, remember that there are people working on behalf of this site for FREE, who deserve to see their work respected.
 
Ooooooooooh ! aren't we angry today ?
 
I read again my post and did not see any specific doubts against no one. I did say that If they have a more progy side that I'm not aware of, then fine. Then I said that in general that  I feel we became a bit too much inclusive here lately. However, if anyone feels ofended by my words I apologise. That wasn't my intent.
 
 
Funny thing is that in another thread about Toto's inclusion I did reject their inclusion by quoting your words writen few weeks ago. I suggest you check that one so you can be realy angry that I used your words supporting my thoughts.
 
It seems to me Micky do believe in Cat Stevens' words (I'm looking for a hard headed woman). It's O.K. I feel the same about this issue (Mickey, you lucky bustard !).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 11:11
I am not angry, and it was yesterday anywayWink....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 11:50
Oh right. Wer'e in the same time zone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 15:28
going once......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 16:32
Are they going in as Jazz Rock/Fusion? If so...this is a great addition!
 
Honestly, if you reject Chicago on the basis of their 80's pop, should we not get rid of Genesis as well? But that does not seem to be a problem anymoreSmile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 17:44
Definitely Jazz rock with a prog related markWink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 05:11
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm a big enough fan that I have all of Chicago's album from I - XXXII (Stone of Sisyphus), so I am probably quite qualified to do so.  But it'll have to wait until after April 15th before I'll have any time to get around to it so if someone has time to do it before than, than more power to you.


so what do you rekon their best albums are I'm really interested in exploring them further only got their greatist hits, it don't like their 80s hits too much, they all kind of sound the same to me



  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 07:10
Originally posted by mr.cub mr.cub wrote:

Are they going in as Jazz Rock/Fusion? If so...this is a great addition!
 
Honestly, if you reject Chicago on the basis of their 80's pop, should we not get rid of Genesis as well? But that does not seem to be a problem anymoreSmile


yepper.. that's where they be going hahah. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 07:34
Originally posted by Cheesecakemouse Cheesecakemouse wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm a big enough fan that I have all of Chicago's album from I - XXXII (Stone of Sisyphus), so I am probably quite qualified to do so.  But it'll have to wait until after April 15th before I'll have any time to get around to it so if someone has time to do it before than, than more power to you.


so what do you rekon their best albums are I'm really interested in exploring them further only got their greatist hits, it don't like their 80s hits too much, they all kind of sound the same to me
 
I think there is a pretty good consensus that for PA members the best place to start with Chicago would be within the first 5 to 7 albums.  I was listening to their debut Chicago Transit Authority the other day for the first time in quite awhile and it is quite good.  It has a few of their best hits on it, but also some hidden gems as well. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 04:28
Seeing the CTA was released a looooong time ago, it was without doubt progressive for the time. Meaning that apart from BS&T and possibly The Flock at the same time, NOBODY had done anything like that. What can be  more progressive in the sense of the word?
 
As for writing up the bio, I'd offer, but as I'd have to listen to their later output, I can't bring myself to do it. Meaning it's 'orrible. Really, really awful.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 04:33
Chicago and BS&T... Always a comparison... I do not understand... However, these two bands are a good use of wind instruments and in general play a similar music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 05:11
Mandy: I think you just mentioned the reasons for the comparisons yourself.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 06:08
and sold ........to the skinny runt with the big yapper..

since no one volunteers John...I'll do the addition. Will start on it this evening.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 06:39
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Cheesecakemouse Cheesecakemouse wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm a big enough fan that I have all of Chicago's album from I - XXXII (Stone of Sisyphus), so I am probably quite qualified to do so.  But it'll have to wait until after April 15th before I'll have any time to get around to it so if someone has time to do it before than, than more power to you.


so what do you rekon their best albums are I'm really interested in exploring them further only got their greatist hits, it don't like their 80s hits too much, they all kind of sound the same to me
 
I think there is a pretty good consensus that for PA members the best place to start with Chicago would be within the first 5 to 7 albums.  I was listening to their debut Chicago Transit Authority the other day for the first time in quite awhile and it is quite good.  It has a few of their best hits on it, but also some hidden gems as well. 


Thanks, I'll get some, as soon as I've got the essential Supertramp  albums




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 06:43
^ Thanks a lot Michael, that's going to be a bit of work indeed. I'm still working on getting all the essential 70s fusion innovators in our JR/F section, and getting reviews for their albums written as well. Soon to be added are Bennie Maupin and Julian Priester, and we are discussing Don Ellis too.

P.S. those of you looking for proggy Chicago, start with I, what a great album!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 14:08
yepper... but those kind of additions are the ones you sort of live for.......   you know lots of people will be looking at it. The challenge is to do a bio that answers the question some will have...

'If you leave me now.. you take away the biggest part of me!!'

hhahaha....anyway...give me a few days and hopefully I'll come up with something good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 16:48
First BS&T, now Chicago.  I'm feeling my "why not Butterfield Blues Band" itch will be in need of some serious scratching Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 18:02
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

and sold ........to the skinny runt with the big yapper..

since no one volunteers John...I'll do the addition. Will start on it this evening.
 
 
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