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oliverstoned 
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 Posted: May 05 2005 at 04:47 |
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Yeah, I'd definitely have someone around... but is it important to have someone who isn't doing acid?
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Yes!
Shrooms aren't quite such a problem though - you can start off with say 10g and work up - that said, how strong they are is very unpredictable - I had 30 on my first trip and was fine [no one sober around until my friend's parents got home, pretty weird experience when I wanted to run around outside and I was just staring at my shoes which weren't tied, my mate's mum asked if I could do them up  - I managed, just about], just a little hazy and weird movement but my friends had 30 of the same type and had completely mad trips.
With acid, however (I'm not speaking from experience here, so anyone feel free to correct me), it's even less easy to tell how strong a tab is, because of the way it's broken down very quickly and triggers something else. |
I never badtriped on the wild mushrooms i pick into the cow fields ("psylocibe semilanceata" or "liberty caps"). I took them more than 100 times, and sometimes at high dosage (100 on an empty stomach), i've even made two trips in the same days (70 in the beggining of the afternoon, and the same when the high came down four or five hours later). But one time, i bought a mex psylo mush kit and was close to badtripping... I found the high to be too strong (also i took accidentaly 4 times the right dosage and hve a rough time.) To come back to the previous message, it can be good to meditate , i mean empty your mind, breath and relax, sing mantras or anything you want in order to "plug" yourself on higher atral energies.   
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 04:52 |
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Haven't broken the law since 1996 ... which makes me a rum and vodka man these days ...
but in the early 90s I did take 43 trips on 61 tabs ... and I can't believe I'm the only one whose fave is the ol' lysergic acid ... I remember I discovered Selling England By The Pound while high on it (umm) ... although a nice mix of lucy and mary-jane would be my ultimate choice ...
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That's pretty awesome. I can imagine a lot of prog being very heavy on acid..
I remember the first time listened to CTTE really stoned. My god.. |
You're right, most of prog music is made under psychedelia. That's what is written on the back cover of Gong's "Camembert elctrique" (which is an allusion to acid, for the few who don't know) It's written:"file under psychedelia" On the back of Obsolete (gong with french poet dashiell hedayat): "This record must be play at loud as possible and as stoned as impossible"! I also think that german bands took more acid than all other bands... Listen to amon dullII, Deuter, etc...
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James Lee
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 04:53 |
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Trust me: Golden Throats vol.1 on acid...that'll really blow your mind.
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Golden Throats?? 
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philippe
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 04:53 |
check Vasarely personnal visions described in painting:
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 05:07 |
Hi Philippe! Yeah i love it! and i also love your signature   
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illustrated
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 18:46 |
oliverstoned wrote:
illustrated wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
Haven't broken the law since 1996 ... which makes me a rum and vodka man these days ...
but in the early 90s I did take 43 trips on 61 tabs ... and I can't believe I'm the only one whose fave is the ol' lysergic acid ... I remember I discovered Selling England By The Pound while high on it (umm) ... although a nice mix of lucy and mary-jane would be my ultimate choice ...
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That's pretty awesome. I can imagine a lot of prog being very heavy on acid..
I remember the first time listened to CTTE really stoned. My god..
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You're right, most of prog music is made under psychedelia.
That's what is written on the back cover of Gong's "Camembert elctrique" (which is an allusion to acid, for the few who don't know)
It's written:"file under psychedelia"
On the back of Obsolete (gong with french poet dashiell hedayat):
"This record must be play at loud as possible and as stoned as impossible"!
I also think that german bands took more acid than all other bands...
Listen to amon dullII, Deuter, etc... |
German prog is fantastic. I already frequently listen to Can and Tangerine Dream [both psychedlic], and I actually just recently started listening to Amon Duul II and Gong, and both are great... but really, both of those bands are much, much more psychedelic than a lot of other bands. Like, Phallus Dei and Yeti are blatantly psychedelic and basically complete insanity. I need some Kraut Rock albums!!
I wonder about bands like Yes, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, even Genesis... more mainstream prog bands, like the generally symphonic/art type. How many of them were influenced by psychedelics?
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Eddy
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 19:10 |
ots not that germans did more acid, its just the type of prog alot of them did was very electronic and swaving(its not a word, but it shows the pioNT)krautrock focused on texture and the change of it and that means freaky out of sinc tunes.If you think bands like td and ammounduul 2 and can are crazy , listen to some Ashra tempel. They are the limit.
now back about drugs, do anyof you guys know the negative side effects of mushrooms( i really need to know, im thinking of dweling deeper into them) i want to stop drinking achool and smoking weed,(my doctopr says if you want to grow to your fdull hieght, stop doiing achoool and weed!
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DallasBryan
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 20:49 |
Eddy wrote:
now back about drugs, do anyof
you guys know the negative side effects of
mushrooms( i really need to know, im thinking of
dweling deeper into them) i want to stop drinking
achool and smoking weed,(my doctopr says if you
want to grow to your fdull hieght, stop doiing achoool
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Boy eddy thats brillant, jumping from the skillet into the fire! All hallucenigens are gateway drugs to spiritual(not heavenly angels) open doorways. Usually the first experiences are like Alice In Wonderland and great! The problem with opening doors is closing them on the way out! Dabbling with friends creates a safer environment but you will come out of your safety zone. Occultist are much more aware of the uses of hallucinagenics . The acid test is one of the heart and you may or may not find that door you opened was the one for you. Mental institutions are full of acid casualties and many peoples lifes have been wrecked by the use of hallucenagenics. My advice is stop at a lesser level youll have plenty of troubles in life to deal with, without more! Yes I have done every kind their is hundreds of times, I have seen all the ups and downs. Good and bad, its not really what it looks like from the outside! -------------- child of the 70s a veteran cosmic rocker!
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Don_Frog
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 20:53 |
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I could live on high quality brown ale and Scottish ale. I love the
stuff. Lucky for me there is a very nice mico in town.
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illustrated
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 21:06 |
Eddy wrote:
ots not that germans did more acid, its just the type of prog alot of them did was very electronic and swaving(its not a word, but it shows the pioNT)krautrock focused on texture and the change of it and that means freaky out of sinc tunes.If you think bands like td and ammounduul 2 and can are crazy , listen to some Ashra tempel. They are the limit.
now back about drugs, do anyof you guys know the negative side effects of mushrooms( i really need to know, im thinking of dweling deeper into them) i want to stop drinking achool and smoking weed,(my doctopr says if you want to grow to your fdull hieght, stop doiing achoool and weed!
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Ashra tempel, eh? I'll check them out.
You can't grow to full height if you smoke pot and drink??
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Eddy
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 22:20 |
dalles brian thx fior the info, i was gonna do it by myself so i wouldnt get bugged by anybody, but now thawt i think about it i dont want to actually think im a orange and peel off my own skin!. yea dallys im not doing acid as you discrip but i have been doing shrooms, i was always facinated with halogigens. when i was one shrooms my first time, i felt like i was part of an ocean, just floating in my friends room, playing halo 2! gee dallies, your a library, you know so much about everything@
illistrated yes Defiently check ash ra tempel out, they are the epitome of acid prog. Go to their main websiite from the link here at prog archives review, look at there disk selections and there site, and check out their samples ! check out shwinigon, ahsra tempel and sevens up. those are their best and most freakist. yes drinking stunts your growth and weed just palin messes up your horimones!WOOOOOOOO!
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DallasBryan
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 22:31 |
theres plenty of fun in life without taking risks. dont listen to the shroom god when he whispers in your ear! hes NOT your friend!
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Litl
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 01:01 |
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Drug story: One day in the late '80's a friend and I went up into
the mountains above Santa Fe and tripped on acid. When we got
home (coming down but still tripping) I asked my friend if he had ever
heard Dark Side of the Moon. I asked this knowing he had spent
the 70's in a strict religious community and missed most of what went
on in the outside world. Well, he hadn't heard it so I put it on
and cranked the volume. EEEEEEEEEE he went nuts!!! He was
flying around the house in Pink ecstacy!!!! He was dancing and
thrashing to the music of the spheres! I made a tape of it for
him and it lived in his car stereo for the next year and a half.
What a great day!
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Litl
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 01:06 |
[QUOTE=oliverstoned] [QUOTE=goose] [QUOTE=illustrated]
I recognize these little things. The Oregon state flower, right?
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illustrated
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 03:18 |
Litl wrote:
Drug story: One day in the late '80's a friend and I went up into the mountains above Santa Fe and tripped on acid. When we got home (coming down but still tripping) I asked my friend if he had ever heard Dark Side of the Moon. I asked this knowing he had spent the 70's in a strict religious community and missed most of what went on in the outside world. Well, he hadn't heard it so I put it on and cranked the volume. EEEEEEEEEE he went nuts!!! He was flying around the house in Pink ecstacy!!!! He was dancing and thrashing to the music of the spheres! I made a tape of it for him and it lived in his car stereo for the next year and a half. What a great day! |
Cool story. 
Dark Side of the Moon is an obviously fantastic album, but most of it's appeal is gone for me.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 15:10 |
illustrated wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
illustrated wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
Haven't broken the law since 1996 ... which makes me a rum and vodka man these days ...
but in the early 90s I did take 43 trips on 61 tabs ... and I can't believe I'm the only one whose fave is the ol' lysergic acid ... I remember I discovered Selling England By The Pound while high on it (umm) ... although a nice mix of lucy and mary-jane would be my ultimate choice ...
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That's pretty awesome. I can imagine a lot of prog being very heavy on acid..
I remember the first time listened to CTTE really stoned. My god..
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You're right, most of prog music is made under psychedelia. That's what is written on the back cover of Gong's "Camembert elctrique" (which is an allusion to acid, for the few who don't know) It's written:"file under psychedelia" On the back of Obsolete (gong with french poet dashiell hedayat): "This record must be play at loud as possible and as stoned as impossible"! I also think that german bands took more acid than all other bands... Listen to amon dullII, Deuter, etc... |
German prog is fantastic. I already frequently listen to Can and Tangerine Dream [both psychedlic], and I actually just recently started listening to Amon Duul II and Gong, and both are great... but really, both of those bands are much, much more psychedelic than a lot of other bands. Like, Phallus Dei and Yeti are blatantly psychedelic and basically complete insanity. I need some Kraut Rock albums!!
I wonder about bands like Yes, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, even Genesis... more mainstream prog bands, like the generally symphonic/art type. How many of them were influenced by psychedelics? |
If you like amon dull II, try the 20mn piece on "tanz der lemmingen" (their best album)
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 15:11 |
Litl wrote:
[QUOTE=oliverstoned] [QUOTE=goose] [QUOTE=illustrated]
I recognize these little things. The Oregon state flower, right?
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Yes, also known as "the flesh of gods"
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illustrated
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:53 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Litl wrote:
[QUOTE=oliverstoned] [QUOTE=goose] [QUOTE=illustrated]
I recognize these little things. The Oregon state flower, right?
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Yes, also known as "the flesh of gods" |
They look uninviting.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 22:12 |
dont be a fool! its the horned wonder's enticement!
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mwb498
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Posted: May 07 2005 at 01:16 |
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has anyone here heard of smoking moth balls? I have heard that it is similar to DMT.
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the moment of defecation is worth a thousand flatulations
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