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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2013 at 12:12
Okay. *shrug*
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Right back at you. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Equality 7-2521 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2013 at 12:18
Here's a Slate piece that I think all educators/parents should read
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2013 at 13:07
Nice article. I would agree lazyness and procrastination might sometimes play second fiddle to anxiety and fear when confronting difficult subjects in school college or anywhere. I wouldn't say it's a dominant factor always or even in the majority of cases. Maybe at the college level where most people choose to go so they have more motivation. In school, it's different. Upbringing, sense of entitlement, inability to cope or even contemplate self-failure, lazyness, all of that including of course anxiety about the potential consequences are important. In the end it is mostly issues good parenting could take care of.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote horsewithteeth11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2013 at 16:45
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I doubt it. Bigots are bigots, but bigots also vote mainly with their wallets like everyone else. Regardless, the idea that forced service will somehow precipitate some societal change in mindset is my biggest problem with these types of regulations. Also, they're effectively unenforceable which tends to leave to just arbitrary punishments.
That was my main train of thought behind the article I posted.

And that was an excellent article, Pat. A lot of those items on the list he posted relate perfectly to me when I dropped out of my intro Managerial Accounting class one spring and re-took it in the summer (I didn't go get a tutor, was lost in class, and didn't bother asking questions because I had heard the professor had a reputation for not answering questions she "thought you should already know the answer to"). I bombed the mid-term, signed up for it that summer with a different professor, changed my attitude about it and became far more willing to ask for help with certain topics. And I wound up scraping an A in the class because of it.

Definitely, Teo. I think a combination of all of those is why students don't/are afraid to ask for help with difficult subjects. But if you suck it up and are willing to go the extra mile and put in a bit more effort, I found out it can make the difference between an A vs. a B, a B vs. a C, or even passing the class vs. failing it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TGM: Orb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2013 at 17:29
Good article, Pat.

Not convinced people should have to hold out for market forces to be treated equally. It's not about enforcing societal change, it's about people treating people right on a professional basis.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2013 at 17:50

Is the fear of asking a question the fear of looking stupid or the fear of not understanding the answer and feeling even more stupid? Asking questions has never bothered me, I've always worked on the principle that if I didn't understand something in a lecture then there was good chance that in a lecture theatre of 20 or 30 students I wasn't the only one. The number of pupils frantically scribbling of notes as the lecturer answered the question was often proof enough of that. I'd risk looking foolish to half the class for the sake of a better understanding of the topic being taught. That's not to say there aren't stupid questions but since smart people aren't immune from asking them the question itself is no idicator of stupidity however dumb the question may be. I'd be as concerned about a teacher who failed to answer a question (for whatever excuse) as I would be of a student that was too scared to asked one.

I'm not sure how parenting can address all the problems Teo listed if the parent was failed by the same system - that circle is easier broken by an external influence.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Equality 7-2521 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2013 at 13:01
It's both. It really depends on the student of course. I believe that the latter plays into it mostly since you see this with any extra help that you offer as a professor such as office hours, cell phone, twitter, etc. which goes unused most of the time.
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it's forecast for 88 degrees today in S.F.-- I know it's no Texas but for a city that's basically a foggy island, that's w a r m
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Doctor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2013 at 16:14
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

it's forecast for 88 degrees today in S.F.-- I know it's no Texas but for a city that's basically a foggy island, that's w a r m
 
It's in the mid-50s here in Texas, and that's in Fahrenheit ShockedBig smile
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it's forecast for 88 degrees today in S.F.-- I know it's no Texas but
for a city that's basically a foggy island, that's w a r m


 
It's in the mid-50s here in Texas, and that's in Fahrenheit ShockedBig smile
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It's in the 80's here too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2013 at 16:27
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Belief in Armageddon stifles Climate Change initiatives.
Meanwhile in other news...
 
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

it's forecast for 88 degrees today in S.F.-- I know it's no Texas but for a city that's basically a foggy island, that's w a r m
It's in the mid-50s here in Texas, and that's in Fahrenheit ShockedBig smile
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It's in the 80's here too.
...there is weather.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Belief in Armageddon stifles Climate Change initiatives.
Meanwhile in other news...
 
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

it's forecast for 88 degrees today in S.F.-- I know it's no Texas but for a city that's basically a foggy island, that's w a r m
It's in the mid-50s here in Texas, and that's in Fahrenheit ShockedBig smile
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It's in the 80's here too.
...there is weather.
 
 
 
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I sat at a baseball game on Monday night wearing long underwear, sweatshirt, and my winter jacket with gloves and wool cap, so the fact that two and three days later, it is shorts and tank top weather is quite a bit of news in this part of the country.  We skipped right from winter to summer and missed spring.
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It snowed here yesterday.
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give me the news, not the weather
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stool Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2013 at 14:43
This is not the weather news:


http://dangerousminds.net/comments/man_poses_as_pink_floyds_david_gilmour_to_avoid_medical_bills
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