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It’s been objected that the BUK is too complicated for the separatists to operate, but many of them have been fighting in places like Chechnya, Yugoslavia, Iraq and Syria. The BUK isn’t exactly a brand new weapon system, so my guess is that quite a few of them have the experience and expertise required.

And then they might just be able to find someone who would be willing to train them in how to use it.  Whoever might want to do that?  Beats me? 

Australians everywhere are also feeling the grief of the Malaysian Airlines disaster.  On every station when it first  happened and headlines as follows...

"It's not what's true that counts, it's what's percieved to be true" Henry Kissenger.

(paraphrased)

^^^^ Sorry, I don't get it.

I guess you're referring to the AID's researchers who were on the plane, but I don't understand your point.

Well, I'm not convinced there's a conspiracy but I would agree the truth is probably hard to get to in these situations. Too many conflicting perspectives.

Edited by Blacksword - July 22 2014 at 13:52

I tend to be very skeptical with these things, we know so little. We never hear in the media that this or that event is consequence of the actions by the intelligence services of this or that country (except for perhaps the arresting of some Colombian or Mexican drugs baron or terrorist now and then, or the release of some hostages etc). And yet, intelligence services do exist, and some of them are very strong, and they certainly do things, some of which will eventually have visible consequences. Hence, it follows that of the many events we witness, some of them are related to actions by secret services. 20 in 100 or 1 in 10,000 we do not know, but some are. Speculating about which of them are or are not is quite useless, but we must simply be aware that some of them must be.

It could not be Russia, their intelligence and army are competent enough not to make this kind of mistake. The pro-russian rebels surely have dicks among them but one would think that they would not leave the handling of such a weapon to one of them. Passenger planes were flying daily over their skies at high altitudes, those were clearly not the target of the rebels. Why the hell would they aim at something flying at that altitude? that is not done by a teenager holding a bazooka, that required the work of trained people, and any russian trainer would have told them that planes flying at such an altitude are likely to be passenger planes.

The Doctor wrote: I know if I wanted to really try to make Russia look bad (and I had the capability of doing so), I'd shoot down a civilian jet and try to frame Russia. I also think they know that the west is all ready to jump on the anti-Putin bandwagon and would be quick to find a reason to pin the blame on Putin, even if only by association. I think we need to take a step back and really give the evidence time to become clear before we start pointing fingers at anyone.

Edited by King of Loss - July 22 2014 at 19:16

Peace!!

Things were pretty bad lately...