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Atavachron
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the Bay Area's about to be pounded by the biggest storm it's seen in six years
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Finnforest
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Yeah, wife had to fly out there last week, very happy it wasn't this week....hope everyone gets through OK!
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timothy leary
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Yeah, we are getting pelted here in Washington state.
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akamaisondufromage
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Hostage situation in Sydney. Martin Place and looks like there is a Black 'Islamic State' Flag being displayed. Hope everything has a peaceful outcome. |
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Help me I'm falling!
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Argonaught
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I don't know how peaceful outcome is possible. These hostage-takers are not there to negotiate a $1M ransom in small unmarked bills and safe passage to Bekibekistan; neither are they human in the cultural sense.
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Ozark Soundscape
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I don't post here usually but this has me more angry than I've been in a long time. No parent should bring a child into this world if they aren't prepared to love them unconditionally.
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Dayvenkirq
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^ As much as I hate the idea of suicide being illegal in this country (just my honest opinion), I really think that when it comes down to it, with great freedom comes great responsibility. An apology to closest friends won't cut it, or they aren't real friends. Besides, there are always alternatives; why go down to the bottom of the list?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 31 2014 at 01:41 |
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Kati
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this is a difficult and sensitive matter, because no matter how much you are hurt on the inside and suffer from a deep unhappy depression, there are those who will be left behind that care for you and this will cause them deep pain and suffering by the suicide act. Sad, all this
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Dayvenkirq
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^ That's my point.
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Kati
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Ozark Soundscape
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That may be true, but I think it's more important to focus not on her suicide, but what drove her there. And it's easy to see, at least from my point of view, that her parents were a massive contributing factor to her decline in mental health, cutting her off from the internet, stopping her from expressing her self, forcing her to be someone she wasn't. That should be the focus.
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Dayvenkirq
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^ "her parents were a massive contributing factor to her decline in mental health, cutting her off from the internet" - I don't see that in the article.
"I think it's more important to focus not on her suicide, but what drove her there. And it's easy to see, at least from my point of view, that her parents were ... stopping her from expressing her self, forcing her to be someone she wasn't. That should be the focus." - Well, s#$t happens. That's the universal dharma. I don't care how young you are, deal with it. All transgender people, no matter how young they are, should be able to deal with that. Still, killing yourself over that - that's one of the damndest things I've ever read.
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Ozark Soundscape
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I'm not saying she could've acted more sensibly. What I am saying is it sounds like you're victim blaming.
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Luna
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sh*t happens like people who have complete control over you forcing to be someone that you most definitely aren't. I think you implying that she was weak is unnecessary and derogatory. Suicide has been a problem since people have existed. The treatment of transgender people is what makes this story unique and worth posting.
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Dayvenkirq
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For the act itself (if "blaming" is the word you want to use), not for how her parents treated her. Not really blaming her, but the parents. Suicide is a choice, but you have to rationalize it.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 05 2015 at 01:25 |
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stonebeard
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I'm not prepared to comment on what trans people should feel or should do. With what they have to deal with internally and externally, they have my sympathy and I'll try to be understanding.
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JJLehto
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We all know about the terrible events that unfolded in France, and enough time has now passed to get some true sense of what has happened: 4 people have been involved in some coherent fashion with the Charlie Hebdo shooting, the shooting of a random police officer, and 2 hostage situations including one at a Kosher Market. 3 of the terrorists killed, one still on the loose.
Terrible events that have not only taken lives but are a pretty direct attack on Freedom of Speech and the Jewish community. I am just glad it's resolved, for now, and pray they capture the woman still on the run and it will be the end of this tragedy. I also hope politics don't take a wicked turn in France and Europe, I know this issue is a sensitive one plus poor economic conditions have already created much public unhappiness. That said, perhaps some things should be rationally discussed, like the Schengen Area. Perhaps even the EU and if its worth countries pursuing more independent economic policy, free from austerity which I am of the opinion harms the economy. Which of course creates anger amongst the people. See it here in the US, economic struggling really has taken a toll on the people and this anger/despair has allowed some shocking political ideologies to get mainstream.
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Blacksword
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^^^ Well I guess no country is completely immune from economic hardship, independent or otherwise, but you could argue it's all relative. The countries in the EU area doing the best are those that are not actually part of the union; Switzerland & Norway notably.
You don't hear much about that in British media, which are overtly pro-EU membership. The liberal media equates Euro-skepticism to racism, which is very misleading and wholly incorrect. It's just a shame that the skeptic side of the argument is put forward most strongly by a racist party in the UK. Anyway, we are seeing a rise of the far right in various EU nations, Greece perhaps most notably. This always happens in times of economic hardship, as the unintelligent seek groups of people to blame. They're not bright enough to figure out how their government is shafting them all equally. Anyway, what happened in France this week is appalling and tragic and I just hope people come together in defiance of Islamic extremism, including Muslims. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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refugee
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Five days before the Greek election, it looks like SYRIZA, the Coalition of the Radical Left, will win and the new prime minister will be Alexis Tsipras – much to Merkel’s annoyance. According to the last polls the neo nazi party Golden Dawn will get 5.5%, down from 6.9 in the last election. |
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
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Toaster Mantis
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So, around my neck of the woods there's been a terrorist attack against a free speech debate at a café and one against a synagogue. A person was killed in each's case. The synagogue is actually just next door to a public library that I went to in the afternoon before, so it's pretty damn scary.
I really hope this doesn't lead to some wannabe Anders Breivik type bombing a mosque as alleged retaliation... |
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