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Vibrationbaby 
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 Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:34 |
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There's not many of them left ( the criminals that it )and I don't think that they're advertising. It must be a pain in the ass for them to stay hidden. I think a lot of these neo-nazis are wannabes. Unfortunately their is no such thing as the thought police. Actually sometimes I wonder about that one though.
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Gerinski
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:39 |
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I said it before, peace and reconciliation is a honorable enough end to justify some means.
If Israelis and Palestinians stick to never forgiving the crimes the other side has made, peace among them is simply impossible, never, forever. Do you want that? do you think that's the way forward? Because, if forgiving can be an acceptable requirement for the higher end of resolving a current conflict, why is it so abominable when it regards a conflict which ended nearly 70 years ago? simply because they lost and we won? |
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Dean
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 13:03 |
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I understand completely what you are saying (I understood it the first time too) and I agree with you - the sins of the father should not be blamed on the children, but in that metaphor the father should still answer for his crime. This is not prolonging a vendetta, nor is it retaliation or revenge, it is simple justice.
If a Ukrainian is found guilty of war-crimes committed 60 years ago then that does not make every Ukrainian responsible for his crimes, that's just daft-thinking.
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rushfan4
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 13:08 |
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As the law goes in the US, there is no Statute of Limitations for murder. Basically the message sent is that it might take us 70 years to find you but when we find you we will prosecute you so don't commit the crime.
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Gerinski
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 14:03 |
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That would in practice mean that in any eventual peace agreement between Israelis and Palestinians, a condition should be that any living people who have committed a crime towards the other side be imprisoned, probably for life (I don't know if their laws include dead penalty, if so perhaps killed). Thousands of them in both sides. Let alone the difficulty that their laws for the same crime are very probably different. I'm afraid that's a very unlikely scenario to ever achieve a peace agreement. |
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Dean
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 14:19 |
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Both sides in the Palestine/Israel conflict have (according to Amnesty International) violated international humanitarian law and committed war crimes.
Should they both be "let off the hook" because it's simply too difficult? This would set a dangerous precedent and essentially render the Geneva convention and all international law null and void. What you are proposing is a manifesto for all-out genocide as the only viable course of action in any war and, (since we are so damn good at learning from history), there is plenty of evidence that this is the current modus operandi of all belligerents currently involved in warfare today.
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Gerinski
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 15:38 |
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This is just an opinion, but really, in a conflict like the one we're talking about, I would be happy if they could reach a bi-lateral agreement leading to peace, even if it meant forgetting the Geneva convention for once.
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 09:28 |
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Where did the thread go about the pensioner arrested for growing pot???
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Dean
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 09:34 |
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...and they claim it doesn't affect memory.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 25 2013 at 06:31 |
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You want to see memories? This is what causes memories. Preventitive measures. The good guys always win.
All I have to say is : That'll learn them. One of my old navs sent me this last night and I couldn't resist sharing it before I turn on the morning news so I can try and be in a good mood. Hell, after watching this how couldn't you be in a good mood? The only thing missing is an F-111C.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: June 25 2013 at 09:58 |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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CPicard
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Posted: June 25 2013 at 14:06 |
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And no one to talk about the death of Richard Matheson???
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The T
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Posted: June 25 2013 at 14:24 |
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^He is legend now.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: June 25 2013 at 14:27 |
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Well played.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 03:50 |
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RIP Alan Myers former Devo drummer.
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Help me I'm falling!
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 04:06 |
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Very interesting, I'm surprised the news has been relatively quiet about it. Not sure how I feel myself, it seems to have paralleled the Equal Opportunity acts which are also both outdated and highly significant. |
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 05:56 |
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USA sets new filibustering world record.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 10:36 |
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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stonebeard
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 11:00 |
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With Wendy Davis last night and DOMA today, I actually have some flicker of pride in being American. I don't feel it very often these days. Now let's hope Snowden can escape.
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The T
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 12:59 |
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The supreme court kind of making sense two days in a row. New world record.
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