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    Posted: May 12 2009 at 20:22
Why isn't he on Prog Archives? He is one of the best (and most eccentric) modern guitarists. If Bumblefoot can make it on this website, shouldn't Buckethead? He is very experimental, but I'm horrible at deciding whether or not things are very proggy. I am not a huge fan but he needs to be on this website.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 20:41
Probably no-one claimed him (there are many subgenres that can claim his parts of his output: fusion, experimental, prog-metal, crossover etc.), or maybe no-one tried to shorten his way to approval and addition by writing a bio, I don't know... He definitely belongs here.
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Seems like his best fit is in one of the metal categories, but dammit he's not content to stick himself into any particular genre.

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I love Buckethead, a lot, one of my favorite guitarists of this time.
The Prog Metal Team can't take him on board I'm afraid.
He has 5 no votes, one undecided, versus one positive vote and even if the rest of the current PMT votes yes, the 5 no votes and the one undecided will still mean he isn't going to be cleared by our team.



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Could we sneak in the album he relased on Tzadik under John Zorn?
 
Maybe not?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Petrovsk Mizinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 23:13
He wouldn't even need to be sneaked in if an actual genre team wants to jump on this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Henry Plainview Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 23:15
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He wouldn't even need to be sneaked in if an actual genre team wants to jump on this.
Buckethead for prog folk!
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He's already been sneaked in with Octave Of The Holy Innocents.  Interesting that the prog metal team has no interest in adding him...

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I raised the issue to the Eclectic team.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

He's already been sneaked in with Octave Of The Holy Innocents.  Interesting that the prog metal team has no interest in adding him...


I have interest, but it's been rejected already by former members of the team, so no can do.
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Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.
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Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.


Quite simply not how things work around here.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.


Quite simply not how things work around here.



It's simply an argument.  We have so many bands here who do not progress at all in their music, and they reject Buckethead?


That's really stupid.
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Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.


Quite simply not how things work around here.



It's simply an argument.  We have so many bands here who do not progress at all in their music, and they reject Buckethead?


That's really stupid.


If I recall correctly, it was the owner's decision to include Metallica in prog-related (not a proper prog category, mind you).  It's his site- if he wants Gloria Estefan on here, so be it.

And there's a difference between being rejected and not being accepted.  I think Buckethead falls in the latter case, which is why I have brought it to the attention of the Eclectic team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 18:08
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.


Quite simply not how things work around here.



It's simply an argument.  We have so many bands here who do not progress at all in their music, and they reject Buckethead?


That's really stupid.


If I recall correctly, it was the owner's decision to include Metallica in prog-related (not a proper prog category, mind you).  It's his site- if he wants Gloria Estefan on here, so be it.

And there's a difference between being rejected and not being accepted.  I think Buckethead falls in the latter case, which is why I have brought it to the attention of the Eclectic team.

Eclectic isn't a bad fit, but I still don't get why any of the metal folks haven't embraced him.  Not metal enough?  Does the mellow stuff disqualify him?


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 13 2009 at 18:10
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote J-Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 20:19
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.


Quite simply not how things work around here.



It's simply an argument.  We have so many bands here who do not progress at all in their music, and they reject Buckethead?


That's really stupid.


If I recall correctly, it was the owner's decision to include Metallica in prog-related (not a proper prog category, mind you).  It's his site- if he wants Gloria Estefan on here, so be it.

And there's a difference between being rejected and not being accepted.  I think Buckethead falls in the latter case, which is why I have brought it to the attention of the Eclectic team.

Eclectic isn't a bad fit, but I still don't get why any of the metal folks haven't embraced him.  Not metal enough?  Does the mellow stuff disqualify him?


He's definitely somewhere inbetween prog metal and eclectic. Possibly heavy prog??



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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.


Quite simply not how things work around here.



It's simply an argument.  We have so many bands here who do not progress at all in their music, and they reject Buckethead?


That's really stupid.


If I recall correctly, it was the owner's decision to include Metallica in prog-related (not a proper prog category, mind you).  It's his site- if he wants Gloria Estefan on here, so be it.

And there's a difference between being rejected and not being accepted.  I think Buckethead falls in the latter case, which is why I have brought it to the attention of the Eclectic team.


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Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Buckethead is more prog than Metallica, yet Metallica are in the archives.   Either they remove Metallica or put in Buckethead.


Metallica is in prog related.
You're not helping.
There are already genre teams taking this on board, so let's keep it on topic.


Edited by Petrovsk Mizinski - May 14 2009 at 03:01
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:


Eclectic isn't a bad fit, but I still don't get why any of the metal folks haven't embraced him.  Not metal enough?  Does the mellow stuff disqualify him?


I've voted yes, but so far that makes it 2 yes votes versus 5 no votes.
4 of those votes are by former members of the PMT and only Jody regularly comes back. I can ask him to reconsider his vote.
It seems that some people feel strongly about his inclusion in a prog metal genre.
Want my opinion?
He has enough experimental/avant garde/progressive metal work to EASILY fit alongside bands like maudlin of the Well, Tool etc.
It's a case of what albums people have heard too. He has such a stupid amount of albums for a guy since lately he has been putting out at least 2 albums a year, sometimes up to 4 a year and not all those albums have equal amounts of progressive material in them.
He has AT LEAST 10+ albums of the 26 albums he has put that that I think are easy fits for experimental/post metal.
Given some bands have not even released that many albums and are in the genre, Buckethead should be here, easily.
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