Buckethead

Ivan's just arguing, what's the big deal?  His points are no worse than anyone else's-- he's making an argument, as have several others in this thread.. if that pisses you off, deal with it.  Without this sort of detailed, obsessive debate, PA would lose an important part of how things are decided; the tension and different views are a healthy thing, not a bad one.  Plus this place would get mighty boring without it, and at least Ivan has the balls to discuss something even though he knows he's not an authority on Buckethead.  That takes guts.

You don't like what's being said?  Then oppose it with crushing knowledge and deft wit.. destroy your opponent's argument and you won't have to destroy him.

PS;  this is not directed at Admin or any other individual, just my observations about this thread generally. 







Edited by Atavachron - May 16 2009 at 21:45

Thanks david, just want to leave my position clear:

1. I don't know if Buckethead is a Prog Metal artist, that I've said since the start.
   1. If he's added to Prog Metal it's OK with me, I trust the team
   2. If he's not added to Prog Metal, it's OK with me, I trust the team
2. I believe as most of the music listening world, that Buckethead is a Metal artist, as argument I bring this links
   1. http://www.metalunderground.com/bands/details.cfm?bandid=3307 (Metla Underground)
   2. http://www.metalstorm.ee/pub/review.php?review_id=2706&page=&message_id= (Metal Storm)
   3. http://www.metalsymphony.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=475 (Metal symphony Website)
   4. etc
3. I believe that any Prog artist related to Metal, must go in Prog Metal, Tech Extreme Metal or Experimental Prog Metal
4. The Prog Metal Team has rejected him repeatedly.
5. Despite being rejected repeatedly, a case has been started again, something I don't agree with, but it's not my call.
6. Prog Metal team insists he's not suitable for their team
7. Now people has started to find alternative ubication for him, beacuse they want him here.

Nº 7 is my problem, Metal artists should go to Prog Metal, there are already 3 Prog Metal sub-genres (three times any sub-genre) that cover all the spectrum, this is not a Prog Metal site exclusively to have Metal artists in PM and other teams because some people believe he deserves to be here.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 16 2009 at 22:23

I believe a peaceful post explaining  a position that incredibly has little relation with Buckethead as a musician was necessary.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 16 2009 at 22:34

Toposfm, I'm not familiar withn Ulver, but I'm with Fantomas, as a fact Bryan Adair and myself were the ones who inducted this band in 2004 and 2005, and they go far beyond Prog Metal, as a fact they went DIRECTLY to Avant

Just one last thing.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 16 2009 at 22:57

I re-opened this thread as I expected my request to be honoured. Lesson learnt.

Tony R wrote: I re-opened this thread as I expected my request to be honoured. Lesson learnt.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 17 2009 at 10:01

*Bump*

It's how he gets his name, if he took it off he'd be 'head' which is weird.

since someone else brought up the dreaded Buckethead topic again i just thought i'd add one variation
Mr B is both on the MMA as metal related and JMA as jazz related
Jazz and metal together seems like prog to me
That's it
Bye!

Ricochet wrote: Three pages and a lot of heated debate into this matter, I just wanna reiterate that Epignosis has brought the issue of Buckethead being added to the Eclectic Team, being himself a member, and we ask everyone to give us the time to evaluate the artist properly.

And...???