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Poll Question: Your favourite book by J.R.R. Tolkien?
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    Posted: June 12 2009 at 12:47
^ I was going to say that, since it inspired me to post about the Blind Guardian album. One line of the lyrics is "She, the mistress of her own lust".Smile

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Post Options Post Options   Quote aapatsos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:20
Originally posted by Raff

[QUOTE=Negoba]

Edit: Alberto, Ungoliant is a sheWinkLOL...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aapatsos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:23
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak

BTW: If any of you Tolkien fans haven't checked out Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle-Earth yet ... well, you should.Big smile


I doubt there is a single Tolkien+prog/metal fan that does not have this gem... is there AngryLOL?

When it was released, I was 17, really impressed with it and called a friend to say I have this album. He was impressed by the album as well (he was a Tolkien fan) and I loved the album after reading the Slmarillion that year...Big smile
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Unfortunately, I was not very impressed by Blind Guardian's albumUnhappy... I suppose it's just a matter of personal taste. I don't think it captures the spirit of The Silmarillion at all, but perhaps it's just me.
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^ oh well... ErmmUnhappy
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I don't expect everyone to love this album ... IMO people will either love or hate it, and I'm fine with both.Smile
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No, Mike, I can't say I HATE it... It just didn't do much for me, though I understand why many people love it. Anyway, if it can be of any consolation to all of you BG fansWink, I don't believe any musician has captured the atmosphere of Tolkien's work effectively. I have heard Bo Hansson's record, and was not particularly impressed either.
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I don't think they tried to capture the atmosphere of the book ... they're a metal band, and they combined the style they had been developing for several years with some of the stories from the book. It's very sophisticated too ... you definitely need several spins to grasp all the little details in the music.
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Originally posted by aapatsos

Originally posted by Raff

[QUOTE=Negoba]

Edit: Alberto, Ungoliant is a sheWinkLOL...
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The Silmarillion.................the immensity of the First Age almost dwarfs ( no pun intended) the other works. I think Christopher Tolkien had a large role to play in the finishing off of this epic, hence the style different to LOTR. The tale of Beren and Luthien perhaps the best love story ever told too.
Unfinished Tales is also incredible
 
Tolkiens version of the Universe, God, The Music of the Ainur that help form Arda ( Earth), The tales of the Valar versus their errant Melkor just mindblowing. And that is not even touching on Hildorien and the beginning of the Firstborn - The Elves , and their journey West. Great insight also to the origin of the Istari ( wizards), the lienage of the Elves and how it fits/meshes up to the Fourth Age in LOTR.
 
Smith of Wooten Major excellent too.
 
What a thread!!!
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 19:01
ThanksSmile! Unfortunately, my experience with the Italian Tolkien fans was quite negative (ended up in an unpleasant bout of backstabbing), therefore I have lost a lot of my original interest. Hopefully it will come back again some time in the future.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:07
Originally posted by Raff

ThanksSmile! Unfortunately, my experience with the Italian Tolkien fans was quite negative (ended up in an unpleasant bout of backstabbing), therefore I have lost a lot of my original interest. Hopefully it will come back again some time in the future.
A bit of Grima and Curunir in the ranksWink
 
For anyone really interested in more of Tolkien's world I would encourage you to get the Encyclopedia of Arda - An Interractive online guide to Tolkien's works
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aapatsos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 06:24
I just found this website which is similar (I presume) to the Encyclopedia....

http://www.glyphweb.com/arda

very very impressive...
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Talking about music related to Tolkien I would have to say Bo Hansson's Lord of The Rings is the best I have come across. Reminds me a bit of MO's Tubular Bells in that it is not perfect and rough around the edges but it flows pretty much for 40 minutes starting with the Shire and ending at Mithlond ( Havens) For 1972 it is incredibly accurate IMO in depicting moods and scenes. Check out ' Council of Elrond' and the " Ring Goes South'
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Originally posted by aapatsos

I just found this website which is similar (I presume) to the Encyclopedia....

http://www.glyphweb.com/arda

very very impressive...
Thumbs Up That's the one.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote el dingo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2009 at 05:19
When I read tLotR for the first of many times in the early Seventies it had a cult status that made you feel cool to carry it around - heck, you'd see people with it at gigs and festivals for Chrissakes.
 
I've found it quite enduring, but I'm putting on the flameproof suit 'cos I find the Elvish language parts positively, erm, er, there's no other way to say it: masturbatory and unnecessary; patronising even.
 
I love this book, you're immersed in a different world in a way even the best sci-fi cannot emulate, IMO. The Hobbit is a "good story" but like I guess a lot of people I read it after tLotR and it didn't compare on the same level.
 
I tried real hard with Silmarillion, but just couldn't get into it. Unfortunately i virtually speed read (it's a curse, not a gift, especially when it comes to fiction) and I didn't find much in it to grab me.
 
Clapfor the film trilogy too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SaltyJon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2009 at 23:37
I've only read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings books, though I have Children of Hurin, and I think we have a copy of Silmarillion around the house somewhere, both of which have been on my list to read for a while.  Unfortunately I recently discovered Vonnegut and Philip Dick and Jonathan Lethem and Jonathan Carroll and I'm still working through the Dune series and...well, I've got a lot of reading to do.  Of the two I've read though, I really can't say I like one more than the other.  I've always considered the Hobbit to be part of the same story as the main trilogy, so in my eyes they're one work rather than two.  No vote from me yet. 
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I actually picked The Hobbit.
 
Even though my name is named after a character from Lord of the Rings I still think we owe it all to The Hobbit, and maybe the Silmarillion is part of the Middle-Earth series, but I still prefer The Hobbit if I had to pick an influential one.
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1. The Lord of the Rings
2. The Hobbit
3. The Silmarillion
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