Isis, Neurosis, and Pelican as prog? |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Topic: Isis, Neurosis, and Pelican as prog? Posted: June 16 2009 at 12:46 |
Mmmmm... I love these three groups.
Why wouldnt Pelican be progressive? They are arguably the most bombastic of the three! Listen to the Fire in our throats.
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JROCHA
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 18 2007 Location: Oakland, KS Status: Offline Points: 1501 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 18:35 |
Their music is Progressive, i would not call them Prog bands. I do think they deserve to be on the site. Very fine bands they are.
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Rivertree
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17571 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 17:21 |
Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24391 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 17:14 |
The only site? Not true... Here's the ProgGnosis entries for the three bands:
Isis - http://www.proggnosis.com/PGArtist.asp?AID=6157 Pelican - http://www.proggnosis.com/PGArtist.asp?AID=6380 Neurosis - http://www.proggnosis.com/PGArtist.asp?AID=7993 |
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Toaster Mantis
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 17:06 |
Maybe not Pelican, but the one Isis album I've heard (Panopticon) I'd say has more in common with prog/art rock then with the sludge metal they're usually identified with. It's not decadent and depraved enough!
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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enemyofthesundevils
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 20 2009 Location: San Antonio Status: Offline Points: 157 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 15:04 |
They are not progressive in the traditional sense of the term but within the metal realm i'd say they are extremely progressive especially Neurosis.Neurosis started incorporating violin,chellos,and keys into a very metalic framework as early as 1990 which was very un-metal for the genre at that time.
Current Listening:
Swans-The Great Annihilator
Fog In The Shell-Private South
Mike Patton-anything and everything
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 13:45 |
Well let's put it this way. They are definitely progressive music dynamically, Isis especially, with the whole starting out at a very thin texture and building up to an explosion of atmospheric metal. They also bust down about as many boundaries as any band on this site. So that's why they are progressive metal.
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eddz
Forum Newbie Joined: December 28 2008 Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 13:36 |
Interesting. I see that it originates from progressive metal as well as a list of other musical genres. Both the eclectic style and its coming from prog metal must be huge contributing factors.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 13:27 |
All three bands are Post Metal, and we categorise them as such. That's all there is to it really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_metal
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What?
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eddz
Forum Newbie Joined: December 28 2008 Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: June 15 2009 at 13:13 |
I've recently been doing some research on these bands and others that belong in the post-metal category. This is the only site that specifically labels them as "progressive".
By a certain definition, they have progressed several genres of music, including atmospheric/ post- sludge metal and the artisticality of low tuned, deep metal. But I've not specifically seen them as progressive except under this website. Which brings us to the discussion, why did they put these bands under the PA? and have they failed to recognize bands that have progressed music in other ways? |
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