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    Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:38

I looked and didn't see this as a previous topic.  Hope I didn't just miss it. 

Also, list the album that broke the string on both ends (if applicable).  Studio releases only.  Don't count live, compilations or EPs etc..  I'll take the easy way out and do a couple popular bands and how I see it with them.

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Yes - 6: The YES Album -> Going for the One

It would be 5 if you count Yesterday as a release (which I didn't).  The string started after Time and a Word.  It is a decent record but it doesn't have the scope and thrills that started the "Yes" prime years.  Tormato brought it to an end if I look at it objectively although I really like the album a lot.  The songs just aren't up to the content of the previous releases.  I would say that was a good run though.

Rush - 5: 2112-> Moving Pictures

Could have been 7 as I absolutely love Fly by Night, unfortunately I consider Caress of Steal a string breaker.  I know you Rush fans are gonna flog me for that (btw I am a huge Rush fan), but seriously I only find Bastille Day and bits and pieces of the necromancer stuff to be up to par.  Signals stopped the string and again I really like it.  But, if you listen to Moving Pictures then Signals it just doesn't have the same drive.  Still a fine chain of music and amazing that they put out album after album after album of good tunes, even though I'm not a huge fan of the last 4 or 5. 

 

 

 



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Spocks Beard  6   The Light to Snow
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Genesis:
01 Trespass
02 Nursery Cryme
03 Foxtrot
04 Selling England by the Pound
05 The Lamb
06 A Trick of the Tail
07 Wind & Wuthering
08 And Then There Were Three

Rush:
01 A Farewell to Kings
02 Hemispheres
03 Permanent Waves
04 Moving Pictures
05 Signals
06 Grace under Pressure
07 Power Windows
08 Hold Your Fire
09 Presto
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:45

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Spocks Beard  6   The Light to Snow

hmm...I'd probably consider The Kindness of Strangers and Snow itself as string breakers.  I can't listen to either one end to end, but both of them have stuff with SB at it's best so hard to argue too much.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:48
JM youll find it hard to get agreement I guess ok Ill give you snow, but kindness is really great but thats IMO. I mean someones put Presto up there^
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Originally posted by Miaugion Miaugion wrote:

Genesis:
01 Trespass
02 Nursery Cryme
03 Foxtrot
04 Selling England by the Pound
05 The Lamb
06 A Trick of the Tail
07 Wind & Wuthering
08 And Then There Were Three

Rush:
01 A Farewell to Kings
02 Hemispheres
03 Permanent Waves
04 Moving Pictures
05 Signals
06 Grace under Pressure
07 Power Windows
08 Hold Your Fire
09 Presto

ok, have to quibble with Trespass and Winds & Wuthering/ATTTT.  All three good records, but not up to snuff to the 2->6 on that list IMO.

And on Rush, It's hard for me to consider Signals and GUP and espcecially Presto as up to the level of the rest.  Again, just my opinion. 

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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

JM youll find it hard to get agreement I guess ok Ill give you snow, but kindness is really great but thats IMO. I mean someones put Presto up there^

lol, yeah...I just commented on Presto hehehe.

I don't know what it is about Kindness.  I love the opening track and June, but I have a hard time staying in contact with the rest of it.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:54
Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

JM youll find it hard to get agreement I guess ok Ill give you snow, but kindness is really great but thats IMO. I mean someones put Presto up there^

lol, yeah...I just commented on Presto hehehe.

I don't know what it is about Kindness.  I love the opening track and June, but I have a hard time staying in contact with the rest of it.

 

I know what you mean, it has a different sound and approach than other albums. I think yuoll find though that quite a few on the forum actually prefer it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:58
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I mean someones put Presto up there^


I've included it because it's simply a beautifully written, stylistically diverse but harmonically homogenic album that should be referred to as one of the best of its genre (atmospheric/melodic rock with an edge). Of course, it isn't regarded as a Rush classic but the compositions scream 'quality' nonetheless.
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Originally posted by Miaugion Miaugion wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I mean someones put Presto up there^


I've included it because it's simply a beautifully written, stylistically diverse but harmonically homogenic album that should be referred to as one of the best of its genre (atmospheric/melodic rock with an edge). Of course, it isn't regarded as a Rush classic but the compositions scream 'quality' nonetheless.

I wasn't having a "go" at you . I was just making a point about differences of opinion.

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Peter Hammill - Fool's Mate ---to--- Sitting Targets = 10

Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant ---to--- Interview = 9
     

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 12:04
Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

ok, have to quibble with Trespass and Winds & Wuthering/ATTTT. All three good records, but not up to snuff to the 2->6 on that list IMO.



Uhm, a bit more objective, please ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 12:07

Originally posted by Miaugion Miaugion wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I mean someones put Presto up there^


I've included it because it's simply a beautifully written, stylistically diverse but harmonically homogenic album that should be referred to as one of the best of its genre (atmospheric/melodic rock with an edge). Of course, it isn't regarded as a Rush classic but the compositions scream 'quality' nonetheless.

heh, that's cool. Different strokes and all that.  The only song on that CD I like is Available Light.  I would Like Power Windows but the production was terrible it makes the songs just flat and boring, fortunately the live stuff proves the songs from PW to be very strong.  I thought they had got it back to together when HYF came out (even though it was little pop-rockish), but seriously I can't stand the production on anything that came after that.  I've always wondered what it is about the sound that polarizes people between the pre / post 90s listeners.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 12:08
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I wasn't having a "go" at you . I was just making a point about differences of opinion.



I just wanted to explain why I thought an album that is definitely not one of the band's classics should be listed as well.
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Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:


Peter Hammill - Fool's Mate ---to--- Sitting Targets = 10

Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant ---to--- Interview = 9
     

Ok, on GG I think one of those is a live album and for whatever reason I don't think Free Hand qualifies so I would be inclined to say 5 in a row.  But that's just me.

Can't argue PH..not my cuppa so I'll pass.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 12:18
Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

I thought they had got it back to together when HYF came out (even though it was little pop-rockish), but seriously I can't stand the production on anything that came after that. I've always wondered what it is about the sound that polarizes people between the pre / post 90s listeners.



Have to agree. Rupert Hine's production is a bit flat and tired, Lee's voice is too far down in the mix, which makes the whole album sound too serious and sedate, even a bit lifeless.

I was merely referring to the compositions which are up there with the best melodic rock / AOR tracks one can dream of - provided that one likes American AOR at all.

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My Yes list:

01 Yes

02 Time And A Word

03 The Yes Album

04 Fragile

05 Close To The Edge

06 Yessongs

07 Tales From Topographic Oceans

08 Relayer

09 Going For The One

The first two albums may not be as progressive as the rest, but I love them and I listened to them many, many times.

My Genesis list will do the trick (of the tail, sorry being Pavlovian again, or Freudian, any progressive psychologists around  ):

01 Trespass
02 Nursery Cryme
03 Foxtrot

04 Live

05 Selling England by the Pound
06 The Lamb
07 A Trick of the Tail
08 Wind & Wuthering

09 Seconds Out 
10 And Then There Were Three

and:

11 Duke

I'll have to defend Duke? Yeah, I thought so. I don't have to defend Behind The Lines, Duchess and The Guide Vocal, do I? And Duke's Travels and Duke's End are allright too? It's not necessary to defend Heathaze and Cul de Sac either, or...?

Man Of Our Times: not Rutherford's best song, but it works within the context of the album. About Misunderstanding: well, I just like it: it's about his marriage breaking up and for a Collins song it's pretty good. I don't like Turn It On too much, but most of the album is: very original, with great drumpatterns (e.g. Behind The Lines) and percussion (e.g. Duchess), keyboard sounds are fantastico, and there's definitely soul in the album.

But I wasn't finished yet:

11 Abacab

12 Three Sides Live

No, I'm not going to defend this. I'm going to run for my life  ...

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Hemispheres 

Permanent Waves 

Moving Pictures 

Signals 

Grace under Pressure 

Power Windows

 

 

prologue

ashes are burning

turn of the cards

scheherazade

novella

song for all seasons

 



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Now come on, that's the second person who put Trespass on the list.  I'm all for Genesis (aside from just putting the entire catalog here ).  But come on, Trespass is sloppy.  Half the songs wander around without point for the majority of their time.  I appreciate it as the beginning of the band learning to play together and record music, but "A great record"?  I think not. heheh
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