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sigod 
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 Posted: May 06 2005 at 08:11 |
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How difficult it must be just for a band/artist to string TWO good
albums together but I guess the guys that got closest to a run of great
albums was for me Yes in the late 60's and early 70's. I'm not a huge
fan nowadays but I think that there is a case to say that between The
Yes Album, Fragile & Close To The Edge, the band worked up to a
creative peak.
Sorry to say that IMO, Topographic Oceans however, was a bridge too far.
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threefates
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 08:19 |
 JMCecil wrote:
Bands like ELP are easier because, assuming you like them, they pretty much made great record after great record and then poof ........no more good records (with few spotty exceptions).
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Not necessarily true.. especially if you like ELP.. .because Works II and Love Beach may of been spotty, but I really love ELPowell and Black Moon... then In the Hot Seat gets spotty again...
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sigod
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 08:23 |
threefates wrote:
JMCecil wrote:
Bands like ELP are easier because, assuming you like them, they
pretty much made great record after great record and then poof
........no more good records (with few spotty exceptions).
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Not necessarily true.. especially if you like ELP..
.because Works II and Love Beach may of been spotty, but I
really love ELPowell and Black Moon... then In the Hot Seat gets spotty
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I really rate the ELPowel album too. On paper, that line up should
never really have worked but happily the album was a resounding
artistic success.
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- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 08:38 |
Wow, I've never met anyone that liked BlackMoon. That album pretty much has the same problem as the Royal Albert to me...Carl just slapping like a pop drummer instead of playing the danged things. Pretty much like everything he's done since Asia ruined him (or possibly since he ruined Asia no way to know for sure heheheheh). For me it's essential that all three guys play at their best for the music to work like the older stuff. It just didn't seem to happen for me with BM. Actually I always thought "how goes Carl is how goes the song".
ELpowell is ok and even rocks great at times. I don't think I can put it in with Trilogy or BSS or even any of the Works stuff though.
Love Beach...as someone so eloquently pointed out in another thread ...WTF is that?
{jesus, I edited three times before I could spell 'no'...clearly not enough coffee yet.}
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Infinity
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:18 |
Gloryscene wrote:
Yes
- The Yes Album
- Fragile
- Close To The Edge
- YESSONGS - i know it is a live album but it is a cracker
- Tales From The Topographic Oceans
- Relayer
- Going For The One
- Tormato
Rush - Fly By Night through to Power Windows then restarted again with Roll The Bones, Test For Echo and Vapour Trails
Led Zep - Led Zep I through to Presence
Camel - Debut through to Nude
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Agree with my bandmate here on all of the above but also:
Tull from Aqualung to Heavy Horses
Genesis From Foxtrot through to Trick Of The Tail - flawless period
Mars Volta from Tremulant EP through to Frances The Mute - Ok it's not many but they're just on it these boys!
ELP - Debut through to Brain Salad but then that's it for me with this fine trio. Apart from Love Beach which I like for some sort of alpha male rock kind of way I really think they didn't do anything else that touched that early great period
King Crimson is harder cos they change so much but the whole Red era through to Discipline is where they just blow yer mind
I'm outta here
good poll this...........ta ta
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:29 |
Genesis:
Trespass>nursery cryme>foxtrot>Genesis live>selling england by the pound>the lamb lies down on broadway>trick of the tail>wind and wuthering>seconds out>spot the pigeons EP>and then there were three>duke
Then, it's all downhill from there.
Rush:
Caress of Steel>2112>all the worlds a stage>farewell to kings>hemispheres>moving pictures>exit stage left>signals>grace under pressure>power windows>hold your fire>a show of hands
then started again after presto (which sucked)
Roll the bones>counterparts>test for echo>different stages>vapor trails>feedback EP (really, it may be covers, but it's still great!)
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:31 |
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ok, have to ask again...those of you giving Genesis the longer run, you REALLY think And then there were 3 and Winds and Wuthering are in the same class as the rest? Even Duke is a big cut above those 2 IMO even though it gets bashed regularly because it has 2 radio songs on it.
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:34 |
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yes, and then there were three, and wind and wuthering are both excellent. I actually htink I think wind and wuthering a little better than trick of the tail. Duke is awesome besides a couple crappy tunes, but the good ones make it an awesome album overall.
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Wizard/TRueStar
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 15:36 |
Honestly
Pink Floyd: Piper At The Gates Of Dawn - P.U.L.S.E.
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 15:54 |
Wizard/TRueStar wrote:
Honestly
Pink Floyd: Piper At The Gates Of Dawn - P.U.L.S.E. |
damn, there are at least 2 full on stumbles in that list and 2 more that are boderline, but anyone who has the king of prog-pop as their monicer I'll let slide.
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threefates
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 16:19 |
JMCecil wrote:
Wow, I've never met anyone that liked BlackMoon. That album pretty much has the same problem as the Royal Albert to me...Carl just slapping like a pop drummer instead of playing the danged things. Pretty much like everything he's done since Asia ruined him (or possibly since he ruined Asia no way to know for sure heheheheh). For me it's essential that all three guys play at their best for the music to work like the older stuff. It just didn't seem to happen for me with BM. Actually I always thought "how goes Carl is how goes the song".
ELpowell is ok and even rocks great at times. I don't think I can put it in with Trilogy or BSS or even any of the Works stuff though.
Love Beach...as someone so eloquently pointed out in another thread ...WTF is that?
{jesus, I edited three times before I could spell 'no'...clearly not enough coffee yet.}
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I know a lot of people that love Black Moon... most ELP fans were so glad to get this album in the 90s when most other albums out were crap... it was like a dream come true. And it returned to some form that ELP fans were use to. A few classical adaptations, a few original rocking tunes - I love the Black moon title song and the mtv video that went with it; and some lovely Greg ballads.
The fact that ELP weren't as progressive as they were in the 70s... well it was no longer the 70s and Black Moon was a bit more neo-prog maybe, but one heck of a great return of the ELP of yore. Keith had some great piano melodies on here... Close to Home, Changing States... and Greg's "Affairs of the Heart" and "Footprints in the Snow" was just lovely. I was actually listening to this the other night and I realized how much I liked "Better Days"... its a great song.
The only song on this album I don't really like is Paper Blood.
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Arteum
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 14:19 |
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PINK FLOYD
"Atom Heart Mother"
"Meddle"
"TDSOTM"
"WYWH"
"Animals"
"The Wall"
= 6
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