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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 09:31
Pignose, Number Seven exists independently of the trilogy that The Great Leap and Doomsday Afternoon belong to. My advice is to go with Doomsday Afternoon. It's pure brilliance, all the way through, while The Great Leap is, as I understand it, less a prog record and more an art rock sort of venture, along the lines of (though probably plenty different from) 313. I don't think there should be anyone in this thread who does not have and play regularly Doomsday Afternoon. Wink

Also, the CD artwork says the album is called "Number Seven." The majority of listeners on last.fm, however, have put it down as "Number 7." I'm trying to decide myself. Is 7 1/2 going to be called "Number 7 1/2"? Or is it just going to be "7 1/2"? I'm not sure entirely why I care. Okay. Anal retentive, that's the term. THAT'S why I care...

Also, I don't do math very well, so I didn't catch the correlation between Candybrain and Prequiem. However, I felt that Darkness at Noon (which I think I read was an outcast Doomsday tune anyways) seemed to hearken back towards the melodies of that previous album. Especially when the line "...I was separated from you" is sung.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 09:17
And wait a minute...you direct General Hospital (and other assorted soap operas)?  Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 08:58
Do you recommend that I pick up The Great Leap first, then Doomsday Afternoon, before grabbing your latest venture?

(I guess I'm wondering if these albums should be heard in that order).

Also, a Chupacabras review is forthcoming. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 08:51
Six degrees, You are right to be sad.  I seem full of ingratitude by my post.  I am not.  I am humbled and overwhelmed by people giving my album 5 stars.  It really does mean a great deal to me.  I guess I let the outside voices get to me where people say I've had all my friends sign up to vote for the album. 

I am grateful for every person who buys the album and takes the time to listen to it.  I guess, like a kid with a new toy, I just want to know what people think about it -- if they like the transitions, if they notice the way certain themes recur, if they notice the bit of lyrics from Doomsday, if they like the instrument sounds we used for this album.

I wonder if people pick up on the geometric keyboard patterns in "Prequiem" that pay homage to the geometric keyboards of "Candybrain".  All these types of questions one can find out from a review or a buzz.  One spends months/years making an album and then you release it to the world and there isn't all that much feedback (unlike a live performance).  When a band is as unknown and low as we are, there isn't a lot of media attention or reviews at the beginning.  It starts to trickle down through word of mouth.

Anyway, Six Degrees, that's where I was coming from, but I should rephrase it so I don't seem an ungrateful git.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 08:31
Um, 6Degrees, all that post, and you hardly made any mistakes with your English. You're better than plenty of native speakers. Honestly, the excuse that you're bad at English is a pointless one, at least that's how it looks from here. Also, really, if you write a review but are not certain about its grammar and stuff, send it first to me or someone else, and we'll happily fix any errors for you. Also, as far as your opinions go, ratings are probably fine. But a review is for other people, for people unsure about a band or an album, and it's your chance to let them know. Also, reviews carry a lot more weight than simple ratings, so you would be gracing those albums much more than you are now with your high ratings. Anyways.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 06:02
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

Please do write some reviews.  I noticed that two of the reviewers only have ever reviewed 2 albums, each on this years docket.  Additionally, some of the raters vote seemingly every album they've ever heard as 5 stars.  As much as I'd love our new album to be rated 5 stars, I'd rather see what people really think.  Luckily, nobody that I know has rated it yet...


This post maked me a little sad.

I really love music, it's a very important part of my life.
But I never wrote any review. Why?
1. My English is very poor.
2. I don't think, it's necessary to talk about the music. Listening music i have some feelings, impossible and needless to explain with words.
So I don't write reviews and I don't rate albums. Even so, sometime it happens to be very impressed by an album (5 times in 3 years) and I decide to rate it with 5 stars (sign of my gratitude). That's what's happened also with this album.
("some of the raters vote seemingly every album they've ever heard as 5 stars"... hm. I'm not resentful, I understand your reasons.)

I think this is without any doubt (for me), the best album of the last years.
Sincerely congratulations! (And excuse me for my English.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 04:22
Number Seven is a very good album. Congratulations! Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 21:04
Looking back, I can hear that. You should let her do more solo spots. She sounds great!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 16:35
It would be great to do a live DVD, but we needed to be well rehearsed, which we now are and will be after 3RP, so hopefully we will think of doing a show and recording it for DVD.  The singer on Search is named Linda Ruttan Moldawsky and her sister Molly does all the harmonies.  Valerie sings the second section.  Linda and Molly have been on the albums since 313.  We used to play, with Valerie, in a band called Sally Dick & Jane (which was a bit more punk/pop) in the 80s (high school).

You may recognize their voices from "Satan's Angels Fly" section of Doomsday, or "Through the eye of time go I"...   This was her first step into the lead vocals on a Phideaux album.  She's done a lot of singing on my stuff in the past, and I think she has a bit of a Grace Slick sound.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 14:35
So Phideaux, any live DVDs in the plans? Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 14:12
The Search for Terrestrial Life was the real tough grower for me. Who is the chick (I don't know how else to say it, but she kind of sounds kind of like a cross between Jon Anderson and Stevie Nicks) singing there? I don't really recognize her from the rest of Phideaux'sstuff. I would check what lines she's got, but I've got to go...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 13:00
Exists already a "date" for the release of 7 1/2 ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 12:49
Buried, I'm so glad you are finding inspiration and especially that you like Search.  That's the song that is the most atypical "non-progressive rock" track, so I was worried folks might find it a put off.  Please let me know when your project is done, I'd love to see it.

The interesting thing about that narration is that it is done by Molly and Linda, who are identical twins.  We forced them to read the text simultaneously and it's pretty freaky since their voices are so similar.  I look forward to hearing them do it live - if we play that song live, that is...  ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 11:02
I recieved my copy of Number Seven from Amazon about a week ago, and I've been listening to it ever since. It's fantastic! I've been working on a creative project of my own comprised of seven short found footage films in the style of 60's public education films, but dealing with really absurd concepts in a deadpan way. The documentary-style narration at the start of "The Search for Terrestrial Life" inspired me to come up with a similar style of narration I'll be using in one of the films. That's a great song by the way, can't get enough of it.
 
Thanks Phideaux!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 00:03
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:



I wonder if that answers your question, Avestin....


That definitely answered it, thank you very much for the detailed answer! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2009 at 21:34
^ well shoot, I won't bother waiting then :)  Looking forward to seeing you next month.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2009 at 21:32
Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

I've heard that you, Phideaux, make the most profit from direct sales


Profit?  What profit?  hahahaha, thanks for the kind words Roland.  We will be selling our albums at 3RP, but I think there will be some vendors there as well selling them.  We sell mostly through vendors and in fact, don't like to sell it ourselves.

However at 3RP we are going to be selling some of the copies we have of my early 1990s demo called "Friction"  I have about 800 of those things taking up valuable NYC space!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2009 at 21:29
Avestin, it's a long story, and I'm going to write a long winded thing that I will repurpose as a blog on my site as well:

In 2007, Phideaux, the 10 piece band, performed at Festival Crescendo in beautiful France.  We paid for a four camera crew to record the performance on video.  When we got the audio tracks from this production company we saw that 75% of the tracks were corrupt and had drop outs every 3 seconds.  The only track intact were the drums and vocals and guitars (but the acoustic guitar was submixed with the electric guitar which was waaaaay too loud).  So, in order to salvage something and try to create a passable soundtrack for the video (as well as to remember the arrangements for these live performances) Gabe and I had the members come back to the studio to re-record their parts over the intact drum/vocal and guitar tracks (although we replaced the guitar tracks as well ultimately).

ANYWAY....  After one of the sessions we had an extra day of studio time booked as we'd gotten more accomplished than we thought.  So I had Rich the drummer come and record some new material.


I had written the two long songs that were to comprise the album "Infernal" (Infernal and Eternal) which is the third part of the Doomsday Afternoon trilogy.  However, this was not something I wanted to get into right away because it too complicated to do in a day.  But, there was another song written called "Waiting For The Axe To Fall" -- about 12 minutes long.  This was considered an outtake and not something I had a vested interest in, so we could experiment and knock it about a bit.  Therefore, we spent the day putting down and piano/drum track for 75% of that song.  At this time, we had two songs "In the bank".  One was Tempest of Mutiny (8 min) which had been recorded with Rich Mouser the previous winter and the other was Out Of The Angry Planet (9 min) which we'd played live in France but had now been "re-recorded" over the bones of that live performance.  I thought these two songs should be released.  And now that I had another pretty good 12 minute song shaping up, it seemed a good idea to put together an album of odds and sods.  I decided to call the album "Number Seven" a neutral title that I hoped wouldn't seem like it was the third part of the trilogy we had begun in 2006.  I knew I didn't have the psychic energy to undertake that album at this time.

Later, I went to NYC to rehearse the remaining portion of Axe with Rich and ended up writing some extra bits to take the song into a more dynamic direction.  At the same time, we rehearsed some songs that were in the early stages of development (Gift Of The Flame, Have No Fear, Infinite Supply, Search For Terrestrial Life/Fistful).  By this time, I decided not to put Tempest on the album because it was a different producer and different musicians, so we needed needed new stuff to compliment Angry Planet and Waiting for The Axe.  Rich and I recorded, as we normally did, the basic tracks for the rest of these songs.

Now, I also had an outtake from Doomsday Afternoon called Darkness At Noon which was orphaned from Infernal.  So, Number Seven was going to be comprised of:  Waitin For The Axe, Darkness At Noon, Have No Fear (which is like Prequiem but heavier and with drums), Gift Of The Flame, Search For Terrestrial Life/Fistful, Out Of The Angry Planet and Infinite Supply.  Have No Fear was going to kick in right after Darkness, like Prequiem now does.  But with the drums and the tempo change, it sounded too strange.  It also sounded like an "end of album" song and that slot was to be Infinite Supply.   So, then Gabe and I recorded a more mellow and slow version with no lyrics which came to be known as Prequiem.

FLASH FORWARD:  Overdubs.  As the various members came and made their contributions to the album, I realized that there were many wonderful things that people brought to the songs and they were being pulled in a thousand cool directions.   There was a lot of opportunity for members to own a little piece of the album and make things their own.  As the tracks were shaping up, I felt there was something missing.  I also felt that Out Of The Angry Planet, because of its live/unlive recording history, wasn't up to the snuff of the rest of the album.  So, now I had another 9 minute hole in the fabric.  I called folks back to L.A. to do our first ever live recording with most everyone in the same studio at the same time.  For this purpose I composed, with some help from keyboard player B (Johnny Unicorn), the song Love Theme From Number Seven (including Storia Senti).  Everbody heard the demo, but we all rehearsed and recorded the song in the same weekend.

Now, the album was complete and there were only final overdubs and vocals and icing to put on the cake.  It was during a guitar session that I improvised the Dormouse instrumental theme.  We recorded it and then as the day wore on I'd keep playing this bit in between takes.  I wrote humourous words about Dormice and we recorded the Interview with a Dormouse track live.  Overnight I wrote the Dormouse End track and we recorded it the next day. 

While pulling together the lyrics, I noticed a flow to the theme of the music and realized there was a story happening, a hero's journey as it were.  Axe was about someone being trapped in a cult and their loved one leaving them behind (in order to save themselves).  Darkness saw a person being carried away on a boxcar to their death but claiming their soul/mind as their own.  Gift dealt with people who give up vs. people who fight for their lives.    Search is about waking up from insecurity/addiction/ineffective living and claiming the abundance that is available to all people if they want it.  Infinite is an extrapolation of that, perhaps from the perspective of a person who has come through it and realizes that the universe is so immensely wide they are but a speck -- but a speck that is a part of this amazing whole.

So, I saw a story arc and then seeded through the various elements I needed to pull them all together into one strand.  I always knew the basic structure and we were conscious about how one song would end and deliver us into the next, but we did record it all in bits and pieces...  Once the Dormouse pieces were written though, I had decided to organize the album around those pieces (which are a tongue in cheek reference to "Peace - A Theme" from The Wake Of Poseidon by King Krimsun).

I wonder if that answers your question, Avestin....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2009 at 21:07
Phideaux, congrats on the new album, from the other posters it sounds wonderful. 

Here's a question, I've heard that you, Phideaux, make the most profit from direct sales, which makes sense from a business model.  With that being said, will you be selling your music at your shows, specifically 3RP?

Thanks and looking forward to hearing the new album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2009 at 20:17
Hi Phideaux,

As I was listening to the album while driving yesterday, I was thinking about how you recorded the album. Did you it act by act? How did it go? if you don't mind me asking.


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