MartyMcFly89 wrote: Nothing big, believe me. Just a matter of one letter. (CD, Vinyl/LP, Cassette, MP3, Digital Media Download)

Oh mighty M@X, I'm summoning you to help us in these hard times.

Heh, another one. Slovakia jazz prog group Fermáta is here on PA only as "Fermata", without "á". For example band Folque has album "Vardøger", with this "ø". I know, it's not much, but it's something.

It's hard to find something. It's incredibly hard.

Well, I have find another thing. First window is before search, second one is after. Why the second one has suddenly other styles selected ? This was happening to me with countries too, but I couldn't find out why.

Ah yes, but now we need to add 8-track and reel to reel. 

MartyMcFly89 wrote: Oh mighty M@X, I'm summoning you to help us in these hard times. Heh, another one. Slovakia jazz prog group Fermáta is here on PA only as "Fermata", without "á". For example band Folque has album "Vardøger", with this "ø". I know, it's not much, but it's something. It's hard to find something. It's incredibly hard.

The same goes for 

Pražský výběr

...and hundreds of other bands.

We had been editing diacritic omissions, but artist names can't be updated for technical reasons. Biographies, album titles,  songs and band members can be updated though.

oh my, "Vyber" (Prague selection) is here too ? My favourite music, quite a popular here in Czech Republic. One of the musicians is now minister of human rights.

If I spot any other Czech-Slovak band with bad diacritic, I'll write it here so it can be updated to make database better.

Aaaand this search thing ? Anyone ?

/////////MODRÝ EFEKT
Jazz Rock/Fusion • Czech Republic///////////          "Ý", this band was called Blue Effect, but when communist reign came with normalisation, the conditions were more harsh. So they had to change name from "capitalistic" English to Czech translation. As you probably understand, Modrý Efekt = Blue Effect.

So this band is Blue Effect, or Modrý Efekt ? Same with Synkopy, this band was first Synkopy 61 and then changed name to just Synkopy. 

You have exactly pointed out true nature of this thing. ///This is what the band wanted to be called///

When I looked on band's exact history (I knew just key points), they were called Blue Effect till year '72. This change to czech name is said "due to screwed up times", they renamed back in '88, when conditions were getting better. And next year, voilá, revolution was here. Oh yeah, I was born this year and I'm quite glad that I can live in free world, non opressed by anyone, study freerly university, even when my prog-father is anti-communist. Erm, and my grandparents were members.

Well, not only they remained in their hearts "Blue Effect", but fans commonly knew them under this name. Only on official posters, TV gigs (they were very rare) and such things they were named as "Modrý efekt".

Another reason why English name is that in these times, being UK/America orientated (they were also combination of beat/jazz) was well received amongst many (mostly young) people. I think that "Modrý efekt" should remain as album's name, or vanish if it's not good idea.

Blue Effect should be the name. If anyone has something to said to this matter, he is free to, I'm not all-knowing b*****d, am I right ? (smile)

By the way, try at least song "Cajovna" (translated as Tea Room), it stands for  them all. I will continue my investigation to band Framus (there were many versions of this band)

MartyMcFly89 wrote: You have exactly pointed out true nature of this thing. ///This is what the band wanted to be called/// When I looked on band's exact history (I knew just key points), they were called Blue Effect till year '72. This change to czech name is said "due to screwed up times", they renamed back in '88, when conditions were getting better. And next year, voilá, revolution was here. Oh yeah, I was born this year and I'm quite glad that I can live in free world, non opressed by anyone, study freerly university, even when my prog-father is anti-communist. Erm, and my grandparents were members. Well, not only they remained in their hearts "Blue Effect", but fans commonly knew them under this name. Only on official posters, TV gigs (they were very rare) and such things they were named as "Modrý efekt". Another reason why English name is that in these times, being UK/America orientated (they were also combination of beat/jazz) was well received amongst many (mostly young) people. I think that "Modrý efekt" should remain as album's name, or vanish if it's not good idea. Blue Effect should be the name. If anyone has something to said to this matter, he is free to, I'm not all-knowing b*****d, am I right ? (smile) By the way, try at least song "Cajovna" (translated as Tea Room), it stands for  them all. I will continue my investigation to band Framus (there were many versions of this band)

These are very reasonable arguments. As a Czech, you know by heart and knowledge the best about sublime political and artistical circumstances happening on Czechoslovakian scene...but I would like your opinion..What is more accurate name - Synkopy or Synkopy 61? (never mind the diacritics) Framus, Framus 5 or Framus Five?

EDIT: So, if artist names can be diacriticized, there will be plenty of job to do...I'll check Yugoslav bands...and see if "Diacritics Edition" thread is still alive.



Edited by clarke2001 - July 10 2009 at 18:27

Oh, Croatia. This country was (in communist times) always like bridge to the free world. Czechs were allowed (sometimes) to go there and they could see something different from grey colours in their own country.

I'm young you know, I was born in 1989, so on the verge of revolution. But i do care about rock in my country (about all kind of "better" music - blues, country, folk, rock, NOT for "communist friendly" and disco music) and, additionally, I can ask my progfather (*1962) about things I don't know. 

Well, to put things clear, he is not progfather. He has no choice, when he wanted good music, he had to choose classic rock, nothing more was there at the times, expect few dowes like Pink Floyd and Jethro - the best known prog rock. And when asked, he answered that he likes blues over jazz.

But as far as I understand conditions in band Framus (thanks for addition), their name should be Framus 5. The were named "Framus Five" for time of their first two albums. But as long as these albums were more like finding themselves (first one being covers of soul songs, second one music made to the lyrics of one of the greatest Czech poets, Josef Kainar). Even second one is for sure good one, their real prog breakthrough was their last three albums, made in a different lineup.

And I'm sure you know Kolej Yesterday, at least song. It's about Cernobyl disaster from intentionally naive point of view. This album has one rating here, should I bet it's you clarke? (smile). Not you ? Well, then I've lost the bet. But you have rated Synkopy, their first album. Or should I call it EP ? I understand your feelings about this, even I like it. I like it also on 3 stars, four stars for heavy prog lovers. Kridleni is their best I think. And also best of has a lot of songs which wasn't released on official albums. Bad things.

I will do my research on Synkopy too, Blue Effect is good name and Framus should be Framus Five and Synkopy just Synkopy I think (shooting from the hip). But as biography here says,

////////////////Vesely returned in 1980 and after his experience with MODRY EFEKT he decided to turn the band (now simply Synkopy) into a bona-fide progressive rock group/////////

in sixties, they played folklore songs, in seventies, they saw a dawn of covers songs + some of their. And I feel I have to respond to your rating of Xantipa. I know it's not too much, but cover songs were normal these days. I don't even think that this Xantipa and Formule were real albums, I think they were more like less-official releases. But I don't know much about this case, but covers were normal, because original songs weren't allowed to be there in many cases. So Czech bands, singers and musicians in general were making their versions, with lyrics translated, or even completely changed meaning of them. But I agree with your three stars.

Also, are Valka je vul (vul is the most common swearing word in Czech Republic, something like "f**k" in English language, often add to the various places in sentence, so it may mean "f**k off war", or "war is crap", just pacifistic song. Well, to complete first sentence, can these two albums be considered as "the best of" category, when they contains mostly new songs, which weren't released anywhere else ? Just a question to stir the water, these words were just my thinking without any new things I read. I like that.

And, to the end of this long post, what is more likely to be added to this page, metal or blues ?